It’s not normal and not what’s trained.

Go asap if you have a driving force ( active shooting / intel). Stop the Killing, stop the dying. You can go in with as little as one or an ideal of 4 in a cell. In the beginning people will just enter.

At some point if you have a team or several inside, it is crucial for someone to set up an incident command post. He will tell incoming units of pd and fire where to stage , set up perimeter at the exits, and formulate more strike teams or rescue teams that include medics. He will request specialty units that have better toys if it becomes a barricaded/hostage situation.

Every cop probably wants to go in but in reality they also have to keep the public out. I believe in this scenario the public sees the perimeter guys standing outside for the hour or what ever the claim is. These perimeter guys know there is enough guys inside.

Imagine if every parent went inside with their Handgun out to get the bad guy. They would put themselves in great danger as the pd doesn’t know if the original shooter is alone or not.

The industry now has got to treating people and getting them out asap. If you have a bad guy defending himself and you can’t get to him or those that need aid, you can’t get to him.

It sounds like in this scenario some pd also got shot. They probably wouldn’t have got shot if they weren’t trying. I will wait for more facts and not listen to the media. It’s a popular Blake after the one Florida officer failed to act a few years back.

The facts will eventually come out. I hope this kinda helps

People watch too much ESPN. WAY too much Monday-morning QBing going on, particularly given that the facts are still being gathered. But that's where we are these days, grab a snippet and run with it.

If the cops were shot and shot at and can't see the guy, they have to get all the other people safe and limit the damage he can do. Hell, at that point they still aren't 100% there's only one shooter. I know it sucks but I'm going to need all the facts, not the media facts but the truth, before I know whether they did anything wrong.

Heard Dan bongino talking about secret service training. Said putting yourself in the line of fire has to be learned as it goes against Every natural instinct.

It was shameful and disappointing to watch even Tucker Carlson on Fox News go full anti-police without having the facts.....I have now sworn off Fox News as I did MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS many years ago.

Bob, I'm not sure that is actually true, some folks will charge toward danger regardless and some will flee.....it isn't really learned behavior, it comes from within the person.

According to one news outlet:
Outside the school, chaos and confusion reigned as distraught parents showed up and implored law enforcement to force their way in and kill the gunman. One father even asked officers to give him their gear, he said.
"I told one of the officers myself, if they didn't want to go in there, let me borrow his gun and a vest and I'll go in there myself to handle it. And they told me no," Victor Luna told CNN. His son survived.
Instead, officers held parents behind yellow police tape, refusing to let them enter as crying and screaming echoed around them, several videos show. After about an hour, a US Border Patrol tactical team forced its way into the classroom and fatally shot the gunman, Escalon said.

Perhaps.

DPS Colonel getting his azz handed to him in this press conference.

Bob, I'm not sure that is actually true, some folks will charge toward danger regardless and some will flee.....it isn't really learned behavior, it comes from within the person.

Yea, this is not going well.

Sounded like he didn’t want to throw anyone under the bus. But, you gotta put the facts out there without media pulling it out of you. He finally said UCISD chief made the decision to treat this as a barricaded person and not an active shooter.

Do you think getting shot with a 9, 40, or 45 is insignificant to getting shot by at .223/5.56?

DPS Colonel getting his azz handed to him in this press conference.

So a door is propped open…the bad guy somehow finds THAT specific door….

Then the ISD chief calls it a barricaded suspect - meanwhile from 11:30-12:19 there are numerous 911 calls from inside the class room, shots can be heard on at least one of these calls….

All the while there’s officers in the hallway

This one smells like [censored]. Utter incompetency at best…at worst…it stinks. Sad little kids had to be the ones to pay the price.