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Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 02:52 AM
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Looking at one in 708 and just curious to get some real world feedback on the rifle. Any quirks, or things that I should plan on doing to it? Would be a hunting rifle for inside 300yds.
I'm familiar with the round.
Thanks, Jay
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 03:54 AM
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Cheap plastic stock, fit and finish is meh.
Accutrigger I don’t care for
You asked for the bad.
The good is it’s a accurate, reliable rifle that can be had for a bargain.
I’ll always be a M77 fan though
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 03:55 AM
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I have not. They will shoot though
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 04:12 AM
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Accutrigger I don’t care for The Accutrigger was designed and trademarked by Savage.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 04:25 AM
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Nothing bad to say. IMO a great rifle for the money.
For a basic hunting rig you don't need to do anything to it, besides put some good glass on it.
Sight it in and get to killing critters with it.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 04:34 AM
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They are reliable and accurate. If you like fit and finish you will be disappointed. I have one and love it but it gets thrown around,
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 04:50 AM
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I've got one in 6.5 manbun and love the way it shoots. The comb of the stock is a little low and the plastic stock is not the greatest but it shoots where you tell it too and critters fall over.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 10:46 AM
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Nothing bad to say. IMO a great rifle for the money.
For a basic hunting rig you don't need to do anything to it, besides put some good glass on it.
Sight it in and get to killing critters with it. This, plus you have a decent barreled action you can re-stock and add a good trigger later as stated above, DON'T go cheap on scope. Leupolds are easy to find deals on. Stay away from the cheap Vortex models.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 11:12 AM
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Looking at one in 708 and just curious to get some real world feedback on the rifle. Any quirks, or things that I should plan on doing to it? Would be a hunting rifle for inside 300yds.
I'm familiar with the round.
Thanks, Jay In my opinion it's the best buy for the buck, I've yet to see one that won't group under and inch and seen several that will group in the half inch range, caliber didn't really make a difference. I've got no complaints about the stock, it works as designed. Let me also say the safety placement is back where it should have been like the older 77's. It's not going to win no beauty contests, it wasn't designed to but it will shoot. Next to my Styer I've never seen a more accurate out of the box rifle, and I'm not sure it won't out shoot the Styer. Without a doubt it's the best money I've ever spent and probably the least amount for a rifle as accurate as the Ruger Predator model. Mines in a 243. The group on the left was shot with factory Winchester 58 grain, group on the right was factory Hornady 58 grain, both running around 3900 fps. It definitely likes Hornady ammo.
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Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 11:21 AM
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What HWY_MAN said, times 2. Great rifles at a great price point, and impressively accurate right out of the box.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 11:36 AM
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All the above. They are accurate and dependable. This one is in 6.5 Creedmor and this was the first outing with it. No barrel burn in, no shoot,clean,shoot,clean routine. I got it on paper at 25 then moved to 100 and dialed it in with the Fusion 140 grain loads. Shot a 3-shot group with the Fusions, then a 3-shot with the Sig 120 grain, then a 3-shot with the Hornady match 120 grain. Did not touch the scope between the 3 loads. They are probably one of the best values for the money I've ever owned. Fusion Sig Hornady
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 11:47 AM
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What HWY_MAN said, times 2. Great rifles at a great price point, and impressively accurate right out of the box. Let me just add that Ruger made it's name supplying the working class with solid dependable and accurate rifles, the Ruger American Predator is a perfect example. I like my old Tang Safety Modell 77's, in my opinion they just have a feel to them like no other rifle but none of them are as out of the box accurate as the American Predator. If you want an accurate Tang Safety model 77 the first thing you have to do is find someone who can work on the trigger or just replace with a good after market and then you'll need to bed it and free float. By the time you've done that you'll have twice as much money in it as an over the counter American Predator.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 12:03 PM
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They're just one step below a Savage. but great guns.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 01:40 PM
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The finish is worse than a mosin nagant, the trigger sucks and the stock is slightly less ridged than a wet noodle. And the bolt goes vrrrr-vrrrrt when you pull it back and forth when chambering a round because of all the ridges on it. And on some models they don't feed out of the magazine, although they could have gotten that fixed. I had a couple, and they shot fine, but they suck everywhere else.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 05:31 PM
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The finish is worse than a mosin nagant, the trigger sucks and the stock is slightly less ridged than a wet noodle. And the bolt goes vrrrr-vrrrrt when you pull it back and forth when chambering a round because of all the ridges on it. And on some models they don't feed out of the magazine, although they could have gotten that fixed. I had a couple, and they shot fine, but they suck everywhere else. Be careful not to hold anything back.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 05:54 PM
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I have one in 243, 6.5 Grendel, and a ranch version in 300bo. All three shoot great. I got all three of them for less than a grand. Yeah, the bolt could be smoother but for the price and the way they shoot i am happy, they just work.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 09:15 PM
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Had a lefty in 6.5 Juddmoor. Not pretty as noted above. I did replace the trigger with a Timney. Would shoot 5/8” groups @ 100 all day long with factory ammo. Only reason I sold it is I got a hankerin’ for a stainless Tikka.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/23/21 10:48 PM
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I had one in a 25-06 and it wouldn’t feed right, so I got rid of it. I think as a whole they are awful hard to beat for the money. I’ve never seen one that wouldn’t shoot good. They’re a good rifle with no fancy bells and whistles.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/24/21 01:00 AM
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I’ve had 2
Stock sucks
But for $400, it’s a shooter
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/24/21 01:45 AM
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Not the best stock.
Getting to the trigger to adjust it is a three handed job. They could have done better on the DBM.
As was said, rough bolt, but it runs. It's three lugs, and I really like three lug bolts.
I've worked up loads for them in .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. They dang sure shot good. Think the 6.5 Creedmoor was 3/4" for three shots at 200 yards.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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06/24/21 03:45 AM
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Thanks for all of the feedback. No real surprises in them. As was mentioned, I'm not really worried about having a show rifle, "Pretty" is not the desire here. I want it to be reliable and accurate. I have read a little bit about the feeding problems, and while I didn't see anything that cited it, most of those reviews mentioning it seemed to be 6.5C related. And yes, if the trigger and/or stock don't impress, I can always get those replaced.
Want the 708 because I already have one and love it. It's a big ol heavy rifle (700 VLS w/break, heavy stock, and 6-24x scope) and I'm looking for something me and my daughter can share for pigs and deer. Built her a 6.8spc but it's just not impressing me as much as I'd hoped. It will get repurposed.
For glass I'm thinking the Burris Fullfield IV 4-16x50mm. Or I have an old style Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x I could put on it. I figure either will meet my needs.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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08/25/21 05:51 PM
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So I got the rifle, the American Predator version in 7mm08.
All of the above shortcomings are present, but I did notice one that I'm surprised wasn't mentioned.
The effort required to lift the bolt is freaking crazy! I realize that this is the cocking mechanism, but lord this thing takes some effort compared to every other bolt action rifle I have.
I have yet to fire a round thru it, but have it all ready for a range trip when I get a chance.
Another thing I noticed..I ran a patch thru the bore because there was some small debris present. a clean patch came out freaking nasty. It was black so I thought it was just some machine oil or something, so I soaked one with Hoppe's swabbed the bore, let it sit for about 5 minutes and ran a clean patch thru it again. I got a lot of carbon fouling/oil (black) and a trace of copper (green). I assumed it was just a trace from test firing at the factory. But I decided to wet a mop with some sweets and see how much copper was in it. 2 hours, several more applications of sweets, and the bore finally came clean. Either this barrel fouls horribly or the factory must have run a few dozen rounds thru it. I didn't find hardly any powder residue/carbon in the muzzle break or action, just a crapton of copper in the bore (royal blue patches). We'll see how that turns out once I get it to the range. As long as it shoots good, I'll be ok.
I can definitely see a new stock and trigger being in the rifle's future. And maybe a 2' extension on the bolt handle to give me some leverage to lift it, lol. Overall it presently feels like a cheap gun, hopefully I can massage a little bit of that out over time. Will update after a range trip.
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The end of the world began the day it was created, and life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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08/25/21 06:39 PM
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The bolt has all the smoothness of a bearing made out of a brick, but the dang thing shoots. I got one as a side by side beater, and have been plenty happy with it.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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So I got the rifle, the American Predator version in 7mm08.
All of the above shortcomings are present, but I did notice one that I'm surprised wasn't mentioned.
The effort required to lift the bolt is freaking crazy! I realize that this is the cocking mechanism, but lord this thing takes some effort compared to every other bolt action rifle I have.
I have yet to fire a round thru it, but have it all ready for a range trip when I get a chance.
Another thing I noticed..I ran a patch thru the bore because there was some small debris present. a clean patch came out freaking nasty. It was black so I thought it was just some machine oil or something, so I soaked one with Hoppe's swabbed the bore, let it sit for about 5 minutes and ran a clean patch thru it again. I got a lot of carbon fouling/oil (black) and a trace of copper (green). I assumed it was just a trace from test firing at the factory. But I decided to wet a mop with some sweets and see how much copper was in it. 2 hours, several more applications of sweets, and the bore finally came clean. Either this barrel fouls horribly or the factory must have run a few dozen rounds thru it. I didn't find hardly any powder residue/carbon in the muzzle break or action, just a crapton of copper in the bore (royal blue patches). We'll see how that turns out once I get it to the range. As long as it shoots good, I'll be ok.
I can definitely see a new stock and trigger being in the rifle's future. And maybe a 2' extension on the bolt handle to give me some leverage to lift it, lol. Overall it presently feels like a cheap gun, hopefully I can massage a little bit of that out over time. Will update after a range trip. I had an early American Standard in 7-08, I sold it but I don't recall the bolt being stiff. In fact, for a $300 gun, it was fairly close to my Tikka in slickness. I bet it loosens up for you.
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Re: Anything bad to say about the Ruger American Predator?
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08/25/21 11:43 PM
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I can definitely see a new stock and trigger being in the rifle's future. And maybe a 2' extension on the bolt handle to give me some leverage to lift it, lol. Overall it presently feels like a cheap gun, hopefully I can massage a little bit of that out over time. Will update after a range trip.
Should have bought a Tikka. Smooth bolt, great trigger, no upgrades needed.
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