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Can quail survive this storm??
#8170912
02/15/21 04:42 PM
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Just wondering how long or if the quail can survive this record cold wave. Never had conditions like this in Ga. I would love to hear what some of you old Texas bird hunters think. Stay WARM Texas!!!
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8170948
02/15/21 05:01 PM
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bill oxner
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I'm afraid some will die.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/15/21 05:31 PM
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Kelulu
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I saw photos yesterday from Nebraska of a covey of bobwhite feeding in the snow at 3 degrees F. If my understanding is correct the main issue is access to quality food sources in cold weather. They need to eat a LOT to create the calories necessary to survive the cold.
I sure hope they are tough!
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8171124
02/15/21 07:39 PM
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arandy
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I think there will be some not make it on the ranch that I have been hunting for the last three years as it is over grazed badly and cover is limited. But some will survive in the draws that had some cover and thick mesquite. The bad thing is there were just not that many to start with so any loss is critical. I think the scaled quail will fare better than the bob whites on this place. The benefit of moisture is always significant out west so maybe it will mitigate to some degree lost birds. You just never know what will happen but I do know they did not need this and I am greatly concerned.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8171307
02/15/21 10:31 PM
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bill oxner
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It is a shame what has already happened with the bobwhite quail in Texas.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8171313
02/15/21 10:36 PM
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Lalo
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Here is a good link to a podcast from Rolling Plains Quail Research Foundation about winter die-off.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/15/21 10:43 PM
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skinnerback
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I saw photos yesterday from Nebraska of a covey of bobwhite feeding in the snow at 3 degrees F. If my understanding is correct the main issue is access to quality food sources in cold weather. They need to eat a LOT to create the calories necessary to survive the cold.
I sure hope they are tough! I have killed bobwhite quail and pheasant in Nebraska when it was 3 degrees with a wind chill of 17 below. Plenty of food there between the corn and soybean fields, but what has hurt both the pheasant and the quail populations there is the lack of cover. They need it. Farmers used to leave hedgerows everywhere around their fields and the birds would use that cover. Now many/most farm all the way to the road/no more hedgerows.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/16/21 03:37 AM
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scalebuster
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I’m afraid the south Tx quail will suffer badly. I wish we had really pounded them last week instead of just shooting covey rises. We didn’t think about it until we were driving back today watching kids playing in the snow by palm trees.
I didn’t believe the snow could affect blue quail until we got a foot of it in west Tx. We had a few bird thanksgiving week but three weeks ago we hunted after the snow. 4 men and 21 dogs, saw 6 bird covey in two days.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/16/21 02:03 PM
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GA DOG 3
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02/16/21 05:03 PM
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tigger
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I had 4 dove freeze last night on my south facing poarch
Tigger If it isn't white it is not a birddog.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/16/21 09:56 PM
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nesikabay
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Not if they hide under a plum tree on a dirt road
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/17/21 02:02 AM
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KHH
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Had a male bob white running around the working pens this evening. 1st one I’ve seen in a while. Was a good sight to see. Guess he was looking for a warm spot.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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02/17/21 02:52 AM
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huntwest
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 03:44 AM
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cabosandinh
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I have over 400 quails (bob, cali, gambel, blue scale ) raised in pens outdoor
all survived
freezing cold does not bother them
having access to water that 's not frozen is crucial to their survival
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8187501
03/01/21 04:33 AM
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Whiptail
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Makes me wonder if this cold will have a big impact on fire ants.
Sometimes quail can have a big rebound in years following a big weather event. Quail started showing up in places they hadn't been in years after 2011 but have since disappeared again.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 12:24 PM
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Hudbone
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Did not see a single one in Eastern Lasalle County on Saturday - extremely unusual.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 01:58 PM
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68rustbucket
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Did not see a single one in Eastern Lasalle County on Saturday - extremely unusual. They are in the brush, in survival mode.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 03:16 PM
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goosebuster
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I can tell you the ants are in full force. They lit me up the other day, they'd survive a nuclear bomb.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 03:19 PM
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1955
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I hate them dam fire ants, what are they good for just to inflict pain
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8187876
03/01/21 03:44 PM
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LarryCopper
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At my home around DFW, the one fire ant bed that I knew about got hit hard. I went to put Amdro on it after the snow melted and there were dead ants balled up. I'm sure some survived tho.
I went to my brother's place in Knox Co last weekend. We pushed two coveys Sat morning that were real healthy. It got hot in the afternoon so it turned into a beer drinking event. He also ran across some others while working on deer stands after the freeze. The quail there seemed to have made it OK.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 03:52 PM
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Dave Scott
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Quai9l live way up North, should survive okay.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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#8188318
03/01/21 09:28 PM
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quailg
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I still found 6 big coveys on a 1 day hunt, after the freeze in Runnels county. If you have good cover, they should be ok.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/01/21 10:46 PM
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rmp
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I’m afraid the south Tx quail will suffer badly. I wish we had really pounded them last week instead of just shooting covey rises. We didn’t think about it until we were driving back today watching kids playing in the snow by palm trees.
I didn’t believe the snow could affect blue quail until we got a foot of it in west Tx. We had a few bird thanksgiving week but three weeks ago we hunted after the snow. 4 men and 21 dogs, saw 6 bird covey in two days. Hunted Saturday the 27th in the Premont/Falfurias area. Place hadn't been hunted this year (250 acres or so) and jumped 15 coveys. Every covey was probably 12+ birds. Lots of feed and cover of course.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/04/21 08:33 PM
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SRPI89
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We hunted our place in the panhandle the 2nd to last weekend of the season. It was a rough year before the storm and i think the storm did some real damage. We had two points that the dogs wouldn't leave. We went back and searched, and in both instances we found dead birds that we assume froze to death. They were both in places we hadn't jumped or shot at any birds before that weekend.
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Re: Can quail survive this storm??
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03/04/21 09:16 PM
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bill oxner
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Dang. I hate to hear that.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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