The real problem with the product is the price point. Savage is clearly trying to move up market, which makes lots of sense, but they've got to change the perception that they're an entry level or "best value" purchase. Why would I buy a straight pull Savage for $13-1400 when I can get a .308 auto for $1200 or less? Of course, the Marxists in congress are about to pass a flood of gun control laws, so we'll have to see where that goes.

The real problem with the product is the price point. Savage is clearly trying to move up market, which makes lots of sense, but they've got to change the perception that they're an entry level or "best value" purchase. Why would I buy a straight pull Savage for $13-1400 when I can get a .308 auto for $1200 or less? Of course, the Marxists in congress are about to pass a flood of gun control laws, so we'll have to see where that goes.

Yay, history and politics.

Correct but that was about the end of Marxist/communist/socialist favoring arming citizens. I believe this was one of the philosophical difference between the trotsky vs lenin, or essentially should the people truly rule themselves or should they basically be told what is the rules. The Le Duan vs Ho Chi Minh riff highlighted this, for example too. The ruling from above model was always the choice of every party. And in all the cases since the original arming of citizens, gun control was instantly instituted after each successful revolutions. And how were they all so effective? Because they all had instituted gun control before, but once they run out of those people the policy sure doesn't die.
Sure marx was pro-gun but he was also more pro-people rule too and NEITHER was a priority of any communist nation.

Btw, Marx grew up in a world where he could only see the seeds of revolution. Sure looked easy to say all sorts of nonsense from the Scottish castle he retired in while running from the bastard he left behind. I think we've painfully proved in the 20th century that blood will be price of extreme gun control and so it's no coincidence all current socialist - cultural marxist - communist in actual written platform advocate for gun control. The logical problem is what happens after they, the confiscator of guns, has collected all the guns from "normal" citizens. I assume in some Marxist fantasy, they will self destroy all the guns in the victory celebration, including the ones they had to confiscate the others to begin with. OR i assume human impulses take over and they'll use the guns to do...whatever.. to their citizens. Which is literally what happened in Korea, Cambodia, Vietnam and about half of the Latin nations.
Sure Marx said stuff....but at some point the actions of his millions of faith followers is some indictment on the principle. Marx sure used the same criteria for talk smack about Christianity and capitalism. At minimum Marx stressed the wrong point if arming citizens to keep their government honest AFTER the revolt was a priority. It was the second correction we made to our US constitution because the idea is so important it needed to be stressed. in fact, I always believed it was second amendment because it's there to protect the 1st.

Btw, i agree with the distinction between leftist and liberals.

You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.

haha, I believe that's a challenge. Accepted. A brilliant man once said it's 5 o'clock somewhere. (btw I heard the Alan jackson version first. had no idea who the other guy singing on the song was growing up.)