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 Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: sasquatch1]
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07/21/09 08:09 PM
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Let us say, for a moment, you are using your dog to trail up a deer that you shot. Your dog crosses your neighbors fence, has a collar on it, is wearing a vest, and your neighbor shoots the dog.......what then??
What is good for the goose is good for the gander???
IMPEACH!! IMPEACH!! REVOLT!! REVOLT!! REVOLTING!! REVOLTING!!
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/21/09 08:42 PM
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If you nor the dog has that landowner's permission to be on their land, then that is trespassing.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: sasquatch1]
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07/21/09 08:45 PM
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Look at it this way. If a stray dog that you had seen and passed on came around and attacked some child or an adult how guilty would you feel that you didnt do something about a stray dog. Shoot it or trap it, but just do something about it.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/21/09 09:53 PM
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Don't get me wrong.....I am not against shooting "problem" dogs. Just a few peeps on here saying "any" dog that comes on their property and are chasing deer, will be DRT.
I don't agree with that, chasing deer or not, if the dog has a collar and will come to you and does not pose a threat to humans or livestock, then don't shoot it.
We had a neighbor who had a pit bull pup. He used to come over and visit with us but as he grew, he became a hog killer and started bearing his teeth a little at us when he showed up. When he did that to my son (5 years old), that was the end of him. I shot him DRT, the neighbor came over looking for that dog later that afternoon.....too late, buried!
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/21/09 10:27 PM
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we usually have a no dogs allowed policy....
yea but what about your neighbors????
If they had the same policy that would be fine with me 
alright rifleman, tell me if u would have acted in the same way that tihs man did in my situation.
when i was about 12 yrs old, we were working cattle, as we were bringing the cattle along a fence line, we had probably 10 or 11 dogs running around bunching the cattle, ONE of the dogs crossed the fence into the mans pasture. and just a bout 20yrds inside the mans fence. we hollered at the dog. the man stepped out and shot our dog with about 10 people sitting there watching him. it was my great uncles dog (or maybe one of his sons, dont member) the man that shot our dog is about 6'6'' and over 300lbs. my great uncle about 5'9 and maybe 200lbs got right up in his face... maddest ive ever seen him.... so are u tellin me that in a situation like that, u wouldve shot the dog like that jackass did? 
if ya'll were out there, showing signs of trying to get the dog back, then no..... However, if it just so happened to be a pasture we were trying to break a stubborn @ss steer w/ a "Jack" in, then yeah...prolly. (just don't realize the potential problems until after it has happened and you've got a steer with broke leg, ribs, etc) Thats a lot of money that could be useless is a matter of seconds.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: rifleman]
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07/22/09 07:18 AM
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I shoot every dog I see at my deer lease. My land owner runs cattle and horses, and he does not want any animal there that is not supposed to be there. Personally I don't care if it is the neighbors pet or not. I feel the same for cats too. People that don't take care of their pets, get what they get. Now that being said, a dog wandered up to my house yesterday, showed no signs of aggression towards my family or my dog and cat, so her life was spared.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: sasquatch1]
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07/23/09 04:49 AM
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I have shot 3 dogs on my place. First 2 got after my lab. I chased them off and got him to heal. Went back to the truck and they came back. Last one I was in a deer stand and a pit bull came through nose to the ground, trailing something. Now the neighbors lab and german shepard come through every once and a while and I just run them off.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/23/09 05:10 AM
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It depends on the age and score of the dog. 
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/23/09 05:19 AM
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I have shot plenty of wild dog of the coon hound nature that turned feral on my grandpas place years back. As for shooting of wild, undocumented or other wise dangerous dogs yes I have and will pull a trigger.
But if you shoot a dog thats wearing a collar and vest thats not attacking you, family or livestock you are an A#@ HOLE! of the first degree.
A dog doesnt know what a fence line is, I remember one such case around College Station where a city Police officer shot and killed his neighbors 8yr old girls Shetland pony for crossing onto his property. You can only imagine the extreme danger that a trained police officer was facing from a 42" tall pony ...named SNICKERS
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: ta6ppc]
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07/23/09 06:19 AM
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sounds like he needs more copper in his diet
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/23/09 04:26 PM
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I have shot plenty of wild dog of the coon hound nature that turned feral on my grandpas place years back. As for shooting of wild, undocumented or other wise dangerous dogs yes I have and will pull a trigger.
But if you shoot a dog thats wearing a collar and vest thats not attacking you, family or livestock you are an A#@ HOLE! of the first degree.
A dog doesnt know what a fence line is
That's absolutely correct and is the responsibility of that dogs OWNER!! If he or she respects their dog and another persons property, then they will not run the dog on land where it may have a chance of leaving the property they have permission on. The dog leaves the property, so be it, it's history!
We've put up with enough of this stuff from deer dog runners for years and got literally tired of it. That's one reason why I trap coyotes year-round, whatever gets caught, is no longer!
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/23/09 07:10 PM
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If you nor the dog has that landowner's permission to be on their land, then that is trespassing.
and doesn't that turn into criminal tresspass since most folks will have a rifle with them to finish off a wounded deer if need be?
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: rifleman]
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07/23/09 07:32 PM
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If you nor the dog has that landowner's permission to be on their land, then that is trespassing.
and doesn't that turn into criminal tresspass since most folks will have a rifle with them to finish off a wounded deer if need be?
Yes, absolutely whether it is a rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, handgun or archery equipment.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
[Re: sasquatch1]
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07/23/09 10:07 PM
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I couldn't shoot some random dog, unless its name was coyote....i guess its some sort of weird society rule not shoot a domestic dog, kinda like a horse...people get all mad when they slaughter a horse but will eat a hamburger at the same time they cry about the horse.....its just one of those things...
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/23/09 10:10 PM
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I have no problem shooting a dog. Just have to take it on a case by case basis. I'm not gonna shoot one just cause it's there. I've got one hanging around my place now and he's startng to tick me off. He has a collar and tags but can't catch him to check it out. I need to talk to the neighbors and see if it's theirs.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/24/09 01:59 AM
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If you nor the dog has that landowner's permission to be on their land, then that is trespassing.
idk bout u, but ive never had a dog ask for permission to come onto my land......
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/24/09 02:01 AM
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they have dog obedience classes for that...
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/24/09 02:17 AM
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This dog had mange...that is a different story.
I would shoot any mangy feral dog but one with a collar or a dog that comes when you call it... you should not shoot it.
When I was about 12 we lived right on the edge of the city limits. Our neighbor had a few goat across the street. One day I was standing out in the front yard and a Dr.'s collie from down the street walked up to the fence where the goats were. The old man who lived next door to us opened fire (with what seemed to be bird shot) from about 75 yards away. Took him 3 shots to kill the dog. Right or wrong...moral of the story is keep your dogs on your property.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/24/09 02:34 AM
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This dog had mange...that is a different story.
I would shoot any mangy feral dog but one with a collar or a dog that comes when you call it... you should not shoot it.
When I was about 12 we lived right on the edge of the city limits. Our neighbor had a few goat across the street. One day I was standing out in the front yard and a Dr.'s collie from down the street walked up to the fence where the goats were. The old man who lived next door to us opened fire (with what seemed to be bird shot) from about 75 yards away. Took him 3 shots to kill the dog. Right or wrong...moral of the story is keep your dogs on your property.
i can tell u that if he had shot my dog like that, his goats sure as hell better not get out and onto my land.....
thats about like someone being all pissed off because your bull got into tthere pasture.... well they better hope their bull never gets in our pasture.....
no need to kill an animal, now if it comes back, and comes back and comes back, and maybe uve told the owner, or tried somewhat to find out whos it is.... kill it. JMO
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/24/09 02:38 AM
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They were plenty mad about it...he should not have shot it. The dog was just outside the fence. I think he thought it was another dog that had been coming and killing his goats.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/24/09 03:09 AM
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I picked up a Red Tick hound a couple of years ago under a deer stand someone had left.He looked like he had the mange but all he had was lack of nutrition.His hair was coming out and I bet I picked 30 ticks off of him.Now he lives at my house and looks great..
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/26/09 04:53 AM
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its not hard to tell feral dogs from someones pet ,2o3 feral dogs can kill a kid quik ,if i see a feral cat out killing birds ,he is dead same for feral dogs ,but a bobcat will prob walk ,coyote prob not
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/26/09 05:15 AM
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/26/09 06:15 AM
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I can kill a cat in a heart beat. Even in my neighborhood. I hate killing dogs but if it's chasing a deer, obviously feral or threatening stock it will take lead. Had a friend who was chase down and chewed on by some feral dogs going back to camp one evening. Said there were 5 or 6 bigger ones and a few smaller ones. Followed him a ways first, jumped on him and he finally got up a tree. Fired some rounds off and his buddies drove out looking for him and ran off the dogs. Took a bunch of stitches and a series of rabies shots. It's a judgment call. In the original described case I would have shot it. When they walk into camp and will eat from my hand it walks.
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Re: To shoot or not to shoot?
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07/26/09 06:23 AM
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I picked up a Red Tick hound a couple of years ago under a deer stand someone had left.He looked like he had the mange but all he had was lack of nutrition.His hair was coming out and I bet I picked 30 ticks off of him.Now he lives at my house and looks great..
That's cool.
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