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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 05:18 PM
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Yeah, knee guy should fry.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 05:20 PM
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But why did there have to be riots? there's always riots. I know that, just not sure what they actually accomplish. Same as rioting after a sports team wins. I don't understand it. two words, urban renewal. it's like a forest fire. Horrible thing, but the land comes back new and fresh.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 05:49 PM
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It’s unbelievably crazy/sad when the voice of reason is a civilian on the street who can only express his thoughts with extreme vulgarity. He is the only reasonable thought happening. He was giving them sound advice in spite of his delivery. That’s scary. Surely one of the officers was thinking, this ain’t right. This could go real bad. Surely, why would he/she not step up and say something. Is it an unwritten rule amongst LE to never question the actions of another LE? Is the idea to just go down with whomever makes the dumbest decision?
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 05:52 PM
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Unless there is something that I didn't see the officer with the knee is guilty of third degree murder. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 06:15 PM
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Was he cuffed the whole time? I couldn’t make myself watch it all.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 06:16 PM
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I want to see the 10 minutes before this video. That sure looks bad. What lead up to this? Does it really matter? Once the man was unconscious, the officer kept his knee on his neck for another three minutes. I will answer that for you, it doesn't matter. The man was cuffed and unconscious, no need for further restraint. The officer knew or should have known what he was doing could cause great bodily injury or death and he did it anyways.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 06:37 PM
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I want to see the 10 minutes before this video. That sure looks bad. What lead up to this? Does it really matter? Once the man was unconscious, the officer kept his knee on his neck for another three minutes. I will answer that for you, it doesn't matter. The man was cuffed and unconscious, no need for further restraint. The officer knew or should have known what he was doing could cause great bodily injury or death and he did it anyways. What I put in bold and red fits the definition of 3rd degree murder in Minnesota.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 06:40 PM
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Evidently its reported there were 4 officers there. You can only see knee guy and a guy doing nothing but controlling a crowd that im surprised was not really out of control. It seems the other two were holding him down lower on his body maybe. You can see one at beginning. So 4 guys and hes cuffed and controlled yet still the knee and unresponsive. BTW, i dont see where color has to come into play on the right or wrong or innocence or guilt.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 07:37 PM
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Typically a knee on the back of the neck doesn't restrict the airway. Just saying....
One knee with all of that guy's weight on it, yep definitely would not kill anybody.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 07:40 PM
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Was he cuffed the whole time? I couldn’t make myself watch it all. yes.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 07:41 PM
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"without intent", now that is the big question. Did you see the look on that cop's face?
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 07:50 PM
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Does “not giving a dang” count for non-intent?
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 07:50 PM
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Evidently its reported there were 4 officers there. You can only see knee guy and a guy doing nothing but controlling a crowd that im surprised was not really out of control. It seems the other two were holding him down lower on his body maybe. You can see one at beginning. So 4 guys and hes cuffed and controlled yet still the knee and unresponsive. BTW, i dont see where color has to come into play on the right or wrong or innocence or guilt. You would think out of the 4 officers someone would take charge and tap out the officer with the knee on the guys neck.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 08:18 PM
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That's a rough watch for sure. Entirely way over the top police brutality for sure. The guy didn't appear on video to be physically resisting arrest, maybe verbally but not physically. Thought the Asian American police officer was going to intervene early on but nope, just stood there standing guard. Really despicable lack of respect for life and humanity no matter what the skin color...
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 08:26 PM
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"without intent", now that is the big question. Did you see the look on that cop's face? Does the face show intent or a depraved mind? A depraved mind fits the definition of 3rd degree murder intent fits 2nd degree murder.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 08:34 PM
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So could a citizen on the streets defend the guy in handcuffs from the officers? At what point can you defend yourself or someone else from officers?
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 08:53 PM
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So could a citizen on the streets defend the guy in handcuffs from the officers? At what point can you defend yourself or someone else from officers? Thats what i was wondering. I actually thought they showed a lot of restraint. Too much maybe. May be an over the top analogy but i dont see it too different than tieing the guy to a tree and beating him with a baseball bat. Until some of yall come on and offer logic to defend this action then i guess ill keep piling on. Somebody please post something in deer hunting so i dont keep coming back here.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: stinkbelly]
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05/27/20 09:06 PM
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So could a citizen on the streets defend the guy in handcuffs from the officers? At what point can you defend yourself or someone else from officers? Nothing that would be in your favor
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 09:17 PM
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So could a citizen on the streets defend the guy in handcuffs from the officers? At what point can you defend yourself or someone else from officers? Thats what i was wondering. I actually thought they showed a lot of restraint. Too much maybe. May be an over the top analogy but i dont see it too different than tieing the guy to a tree and beating him with a baseball bat. Until some of yall come on and offer logic to defend this action then i guess ill keep piling on. Somebody please post something in deer hunting so i dont keep coming back here. I will not defend their actions. They should have at the very least responded to the agonal breathing and put the guy in a more survivable position. I'm predicting the ME will come back with the cause of death being a cardiac arrest from ExDS.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 09:33 PM
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So could a citizen on the streets defend the guy in handcuffs from the officers? At what point can you defend yourself or someone else from officers? Thats what i was wondering. I actually thought they showed a lot of restraint. Too much maybe. May be an over the top analogy but i dont see it too different than tieing the guy to a tree and beating him with a baseball bat. Until some of yall come on and offer logic to defend this action then i guess ill keep piling on. Somebody please post something in deer hunting so i dont keep coming back here. I will not defend their actions. They should have at the very least responded to the agonal breathing and put the guy in a more survivable position. I'm predicting the ME will come back with the cause of death being a cardiac arrest from ExDS. This is what I think.... the knee to the back of the neck isn't the cause of death, as many people think.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 09:38 PM
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The NFL Players are gonna be in an uproar over this.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 09:41 PM
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the knee to the back of the neck isn't the cause of death, as many people think.
So you think if he did not keep him down with the knee on his neck, he would have died anyway? I don't think so, this cop is going to jail I'm sure. He seemed like he was hard headed, and kept the knee pressure because the crowed was telling him to get off, I wounder if the crowed was not there, if he would have naturally let him back up. He had him cuffed, no reason to keep him pinned down with a knee.
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 10:22 PM
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I wonder how much dope he swallowed before he got taken down.
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
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05/27/20 10:32 PM
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So could a citizen on the streets defend the guy in handcuffs from the officers? At what point can you defend yourself or someone else from officers? Thats what i was wondering. I actually thought they showed a lot of restraint. Too much maybe. May be an over the top analogy but i dont see it too different than tieing the guy to a tree and beating him with a baseball bat. Until some of yall come on and offer logic to defend this action then i guess ill keep piling on. Somebody please post something in deer hunting so i dont keep coming back here. I will not defend their actions. They should have at the very least responded to the agonal breathing and put the guy in a more survivable position. I'm predicting the ME will come back with the cause of death being a cardiac arrest from ExDS. Agreed Sir And yes, while this video looks bad, I thought ALL people were innocent till proven guilty. And this mans death, while tragic, is not an excuse for rioting and putting other people’s lives in danger. Why don’t we let the system do what it does, BEFORE we hang these officers. JMHO
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Re: Riots in Minnisota
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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05/27/20 10:34 PM
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I would imagine crowds around always heightens the tensions for officers a ton! You just don’t know when someone’s gonna bum rush you as you handle the 1st perp.
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