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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: TexasTransplant]
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07/01/09 08:41 PM
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junfan68
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That's not correct. It can be planted and hunted over, as long as it's not manipulated. And that's per the NRCS (National Resource Conservation Service) and the Federal Game Warden.
There was a big thread on that topic on this board last month, and people were arguing the point back and forth. I am 100% comfortable with my legal standing on the issue.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: TexasTransplant]
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07/01/09 08:45 PM
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TexasEd
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Congratulations.
Looks like you have great place there and the mindset to make it spectacular. I wish you the best with it.
Green with envy Ed
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: TexasEd]
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07/01/09 08:57 PM
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TexasHeat
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Know the area well! You should kill a FEW ducks there!!!!
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: junfan68]
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07/01/09 09:05 PM
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DukCollectR
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352 acres that's in the Wetlands Reserve Program. The project was designed and built by Ducks Unlimited, in cooperation with the NRCS.
What type of easement deal, if any, did you have to negotiate with DU?
"Daddy!, that big woman we saw at Walmart, her belly looked like a busted can of bisquits!"
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: junfan68]
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07/01/09 09:28 PM
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Moose K
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That's not correct. It can be planted and hunted over, as long as it's not manipulated. And that's per the NRCS (National Resource Conservation Service) and the Federal Game Warden.
There was a big thread on that topic on this board last month, and people were arguing the point back and forth. I am 100% comfortable with my legal standing on the issue.
What does manipulated mean? Cut and spread?
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: Moose K]
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07/01/09 10:05 PM
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junfan68
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The Wetlands Reserve Program's easement is a permanent easement. Actually, it's fine by me. My only interest in it is recreation, conservation and management. The best thing about is that the NRCS people are chomping at the bit to help people who are legitimately trying to manage their WRP properties. Most of the owners take the easement money and never do anything else with the land.
The government contracted the design of the wetlands to DU. DU is not involved anymore in any way. It's just me and the NRCS.
The first thing I did was to meet the NRCS/WRP folks, and those guys are gonna help me turn this thing into the most productive unit in the county.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: junfan68]
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07/01/09 10:40 PM
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DukCollectR
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Sounds like a good deal! Bet you PM box filled up fast today!!!
"Daddy!, that big woman we saw at Walmart, her belly looked like a busted can of bisquits!"
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: junfan68]
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07/01/09 10:44 PM
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jeh7mmmag
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Thanks junfan, It comes up every year at least 4 times. Super looking place. Good luck with it. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/hunt/season/waterfowl/methods/A hunter MAY NOT:  hunt migratory birds with the aid of bait, or on or over any baited area;  hunt over any baited area until 10 days after all baiting materials have been removed;  hunt waterfowl or cranes over manipulated planted millet, unless the millet was planted not less than one year prior to hunting;  hunt waterfowl or cranes over crops that have been manipulated, unless the manipulation is a normal agricultural post-harvesting manipulation in accordance with official recommendations of State Extension Specialists of the Cooperative Extension Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. ______________________________________________ FWS Waterfowl Hunting and Baiting http://www.fws.gov/le/HuntFish/waterfowl_baiting.htmWhat is Illegal? Some examples of areas where you cannot hunt waterfowl include: Areas where grain or seed has been top-sown and the Cooperative Extension Service does not recommend the practice of top sowing (see section on wildlife food plots). Crops that have been harvested outside of the recommended harvest dates established by the Cooperative Extension Service (including any subsequent post-harvest manipulations). Unharvested crops that have been trampled by livestock or subjected to other types of manipulations that distribute, scatter, or expose grain. Areas where grain is present and stored, such as grain elevators and grain bins. Areas where grain is present for the purpose of feeding livestock. Freshly planted wildlife food plots that contain exposed grain. Croplands where a crop has been harvested and the removed grain is redistributed or “added back” onto the area where grown. These examples do not represent an all-inclusive list of waterfowl baiting violations.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: jeh7mmmag]
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07/01/09 11:24 PM
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junfan68
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I'm not going to argue with you. My place will not be baited nor will any of the food plots be manipulated.
I know what I'm talking about, I assure you.
End of story.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: TexasTransplant]
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07/02/09 05:06 AM
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junfan68
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Wasn't trying to be a smartass...but what I meant is I am very familar with the rules.
The whole hunting over food plot topic has been beat into the ground here. I am comfortable with what the rules are, the government officials with whom I have spoke, and the management plan that THEY have provided me.
But I appreciate all congrats you guys have given me.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
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07/02/09 05:29 AM
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Guy
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I'm not going to argue with you. My place will not be baited nor will any of the food plots be manipulated.
I know what I'm talking about, I assure you.
End of story.
Hey you tell’m Jun!!
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Re: No More Leases for Me
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07/02/09 05:50 AM
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jeh7mmmag
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No problem junfan. I was not trying to start an argument. I had not seen the other thread. It was beat to a pulp. It looked like every one had fun on that thread.
�Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul.� ~ John Muir
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: jeh7mmmag]
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07/02/09 05:55 AM
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Guy
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It looked like every one had fun on that thread.
The fun never ends around here.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: WaterTurkey]
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07/02/09 08:24 AM
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if you own land in OK, does that make you eligible for a resident hunting license?
Nice place, I have a cabin near there (Mountain Fork) if you ever need a place to stay OR a hunting buddy.
Im guessing it's the place I have seen for sale up there for a little while, if so it has a cabin on it....Im very jealous congrats.
I am pretty sure that if you own property, then you can get a resident license. You can alway call the ODWC (405) 521-3852 to verify.
It's not skybusting, if you make the shot.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: sig1921]
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07/02/09 08:40 AM
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helomech
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if you own land in OK, does that make you eligible for a resident hunting license?
Nice place, I have a cabin near there (Mountain Fork) if you ever need a place to stay OR a hunting buddy.
Im guessing it's the place I have seen for sale up there for a little while, if so it has a cabin on it....Im very jealous congrats.
I am pretty sure that if you own property, then you can get a resident license. You can alway call the ODWC (405) 521-3852 to verify.
I am pretty sure you have to actually live there. I know for a fact that Texas and Louisiana are that way. When I moved here I had to be a resident for 6 months before I could get a resident Texas license. Had to have a out of state license before the 6 months.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: WaterTurkey]
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07/03/09 06:38 PM
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quackinator
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if you own land in OK, does that make you eligible for a resident hunting license?
Nope. Got a buddy that has land up there and he always had to buy an out of state license. They also stopped selling lifetime licenses to out of state residents.
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Re: No More Leases for Me
[Re: quackinator]
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07/03/09 11:40 PM
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Fooshman
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I'd have to move there for 6 months, buy lifetime license, then move back.
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