Looking at Defiance, what are some others for .223 Rem build

Not only brand but what size to build a .223

Tikka!!! LOL!

Kelblys, Defiance or Bighorn.

But you already know that and won’t listen....just like me telling you not to sell the last 223 you had that was a shooter

I don’t know why he builds all these customs that he won’t keep.

Buzz, can you please build a 28 Nosler with primo parts and sell it to me? I need one on the cheap

yea kinda fe'd up selling my kittle .223

Judd, what bolt face for .223? Some say .223

These are hard to find. I found a Deviant, black nitride coated and a Surgeon in stock.

Buzz, what other bolt face would there be? .378" is a standard bolt face for a 223.

^ truth

Stiller Precision are top notch actions .

Impact

Someone should just rent gun's to Buzz,they would get rich in no time. What's the longest time that you have actually kept any of your guns?

You should buy an action that accepts Savage Pre-fit barrels like ARC,Shilen,or Bighorn. Then all you'd have to do is buy a new barrel and maybe swap out the bolt head when you want a different cartridge to shoot.

I guess some people just have more money than they know what to do with.

Another vote for Impact.

Buzz, go to Shilen.com, click on ‘products’, then ‘complete rifles’ (you can just buy action or barreled action). This is what Txhillbilly is talking about, the ability to swap barrels quickly and easily.

Why not a Curtis? 3 lug with a 60 deg bolt throw and made right here in Texas. Incredibly smooth action. If not Curtis then quit being hard headed and just go with a Tikka!

I've got a Remmy 223 bolt I'll rent to you!

I ride with Big Fitz

you guys are great I'll check out Impact. Actions are hard to find and very expensive $1400

I've had:

Borden
Defiance
2 Stillers (when they were Stiller)
Fusion Titanium
APR Hunter
Trued Remington's (GAP and a Brown Precision)
Cooper
Sako (model 85)
Barrett Fieldcraft
Trued Model 70 Winchester Extreme 7mm-08

Best grouping (accurate) was was a new Remington PSS .308, Speedy Gonzalez trigger job, that's it, back in 2001, Nightforce NXS 5.5-22X56 Mil-dot. Qualified at 1000 yards at Tac Pro the day the shuttle blew up over Texas.

If you get the Curtis, you could get that nifty 22lr conversion they just released that uses the vudoo magazine...
Also speedy is back in Texas, down in San Antonio area..

Buzz,

"Grouping" has nothing to do with the action. The barrel, the gunsmith and the load determine that. The action is the mechanism to get ammo from magazine into chamber, fire the pin, remove the brass from the chamber.

JG, is right with what he’s saying, but if you want consistency and to develop the best load and shoot tiny groups all the time the custom actions provide that repeatable predictability. For instance if your laying prone and you have everything perfectly aligned and you take your shot and you just shot an X at any distance when you lift that bolt handle on the savage, Remington, Tika, or that magical Winchester and you run that bolt are you even close to where you started? I don’t think you would even be on your paper or steel gong or whatever your shooting at, at any distance. So if you have a Stolle, or a nesika, or one of these magical vudoo’s you lift the bolt with your pinky finger and cycle the action and when you look through the scope the Heavens magically aligned everything and you can then press your ounce trigger and see your bullet fly through the exact same hole, so long as you put the effort into developing a load..

Custom actions are nice to work with and have if your budget allows for it, they are eloquent, and smooth, and dang near perfect. If they weren’t the benchrest guys would not be using them.

Tell us more about the type of rifle you want to build other than its a 223. You looking for bench rifle? Walking varmint? What barrel length? What bullets are you wanting to shoot?

Customer of mine has a Tikka action, wearing a Bartlein chambered in .223 with a 1:8 twist. He has shot it for 3 yeara, and loves it. The gunsmith that chambered it does superb work. I shot a personal best 3 shot 200 yard group with that rifle a few weeks ago, sub 1/4" at 200 yards. Same guy had the same gunsmith build him a 6.5 Creedmoor on a Big Horn action. We told him to stick with another Tikka action, but he didn't listen. The day we developed loads for both rifles, he said "well I should have listened. I like the Tikka action better than the Bighorn and the Bighorn was over $400 more". He said "what's the point of the custom action?" I said, well I don't see the point, unless it is a triple lug 60° bolt throw like a Curtis or a GAP. In the event of a 90° throw action, I have no use for it. Plus you also have to add a trigger to it. I think much of it is snobbery for some people to say they have a custom action.

(I'm not talking about benchrest, I'm talking about every other type of rifle shooting)

Clone my last .223 but with custom parts, Proof 18-20" 1-8 barrel, TT Trigger at 1# . Maybe detachable mag but not a must for weights sake. Want the rifle under 7#. I like the lightweight Defiance . My builder just need the action .

I'm also looking at "old" rifles to rebuild

also looking at custom rifles ready to ship, very hard to fine one in any caliber but the 3 Creedmoors

How long

Buzz what load are you looking to run?

24ish Varget, 69 and 77 SMK's