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9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 04:59 PM
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I find it interesting in the times of ammo runs and crazy high demand, how the market is impacted with demand, availability and prices between the different calibers. 9mm, which is usually very easy to find and pretty cheap, goes fast and prices soar quickly to purchase. 40 cal also has some demand, but not near as high and not near as high price increases as 9mm does. I've been through several crazy ammo times (now and 2008 when Obama was elected) and it's interesting how some calibers are effected more than others. I don't own a 9mm and plan to never own one. But I have all 40 cal and 10mm (and one Glock 21 in 45 ACP) and it's interesting to see ads with 40 cal on them and ammo being available. As a reloader, it doesn't matter which for me, since I just load more when I need it. I find it interesting seeing how the 9mm demand and short supply and high pricing is effected in crunch times.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 06:27 PM
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 06:47 PM
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I can't believe folks didn't stock up when it was plentiful and at a all time low. There were some really good deals on ammo over the holiday's and pretty easy to find cheap 9mm. I learned from my mistakes during the last panic.
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its all going to the Nat Guard and military for Martial Law
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 07:21 PM
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I can't believe folks didn't stock up when it was plentiful and at a all time low. There were some really good deals on ammo over the holiday's and pretty easy to find cheap 9mm. I learned from my mistakes during the last panic. I have less than I'd like but still plenty. I was waiting for it to go lower-I remember buying brass 9mm for $5/box.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 07:36 PM
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I can't believe folks didn't stock up when it was plentiful and at a all time low. There were some really good deals on ammo over the holiday's and pretty easy to find cheap 9mm. I learned from my mistakes during the last panic. I have less than I'd like but still plenty. I was waiting for it to go lower-I remember buying brass 9mm for $5/box. Ditto. I learned from the last craze. I have enough ammo to start a war, but not enough to finish it.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 09:07 PM
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Been reloading for a week. Shortage of 9 mm isn’t a problem here. Ready for the zombies. Youngest grandson is back to watching The Walking Dead, and asked his mom what happens if zombies really show up. “Going to Papa’s house” was the answer.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 09:55 PM
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I wish I had the money at the time to purchase the 9mm when it was 179.99 for 1k rounds. Just going to wait it out again, I was able to snag 500rds but it was the steel case. not my preference but whatever
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/27/20 11:12 PM
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40 S&W popularity died once FBI and law enforcement started moving back to 9mm. There were some serious bargains to be had on police trade ins.
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03/27/20 11:19 PM
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I have less than I'd like but still plenty. I was waiting for it to go lower-I remember buying brass 9mm for $5/box.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 12:37 AM
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40 S&W popularity died once FBI and law enforcement started moving back to 9mm. There were some serious bargains to be had on police trade ins. I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen deals on 40 cals especially police trade in for a couple of years. Not as many people shoot 40s these days.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 01:24 AM
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its all going to the Nat Guard and military for Martial Law
The North EastTexas Underground <Militia is prepped and ready They truly are, and I love having these fella's and surplus ammo in our shop, so please quit trying to climb over our fence. Chad, as far as the run on 9mm, only thing I can figure is, we have a lot of 1st time buyer's flooding the market. February and earlier, 50 rounds of FMJ was $8.00- $9.00 a box This too shall pass. Doesn't seem that long ago, .22 brought insane amounts of denero.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 01:35 AM
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40 S&W popularity died once FBI and law enforcement started moving back to 9mm. There were some serious bargains to be had on police trade ins. I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen deals on 40 cals especially police trade in for a couple of years. Not as many people shoot 40s these days. Plus, after Speer Gold Dot testing, the bullet does very well in every cartridge it is loaded in. So, a good reason to have a 9mm is that it holds lots of ammo in one standard magazine.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 01:39 AM
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40 S&W popularity died once FBI and law enforcement started moving back to 9mm. There were some serious bargains to be had on police trade ins. I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen deals on 40 cals especially police trade in for a couple of years. Not as many people shoot 40s these days. Plus, after Speer Gold Dot testing, the bullet does very well in every cartridge it is loaded in. So, a good reason to have a 9mm is that it holds lots of ammo in one standard magazine. I saw the fbi study. If you have a link to a speed study, I would be interested in seeing it.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 02:10 AM
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40 S&W popularity died once FBI and law enforcement started moving back to 9mm. There were some serious bargains to be had on police trade ins. I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen deals on 40 cals especially police trade in for a couple of years. Not as many people shoot 40s these days. Plus, after Speer Gold Dot testing, the bullet does very well in every cartridge it is loaded in. So, a good reason to have a 9mm is that it holds lots of ammo in one standard magazine. Federal HST is what allowed me to go from .40 to 9. They make it in .40 as well but the penetration and expansion in HST 9mm was very impressive for 9mm. I feel it was a good compromise to be able to carry quite a bit more 9mm rounds.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 04:07 AM
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Let me know if the testing is done on or against a form of speed
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/28/20 11:26 AM
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a good reason to have a 9mm is that it holds lots of ammo in one standard magazine. I'm in this school of thought. Yes the 9 is puny compared to 45, 10, or even 40 but In reality, I don't practice with my pistols nearly as much as rifle. If/when I need my pistol, it will be a high stress situation and likely be over in seconds. I'm likely to to miss some, I don't want to pull the trigger one last time only to realize I'm empty. After the last shortage (the only one I've experienced) I started a pile. I inventoried last Sunday. I've got more than enough to get me through this, way more. Now, we are down to 7 rolls of TP and haven't seen any for sale in 2 weeks, wanna trade?
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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03/29/20 11:06 AM
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My full size pistols are 40 & 45 - my carry pistols are 9 and 380. I have some of each. All else being equal, I'd be fine if my 40s were 9s, but I got crazy good deals on the 40s and shoot them well, so it's not a problem. I bought a ton of 40 dirt cheap when wal mart stopped carrying pistol ammo, so I'm not worried anytime soon.
My latest 40 purchase was an FNX 40 for $250 on black friday - they normally run about $550. My brother told me about the deal and we each got one and they were consecutive serial numbers - kinda cool.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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Just a guess, but maybe the increase in small concealed 9mm pistols has renewed interest in that caliber.
I sure want a Glock 43 or 43x qs soon as I can hold each and decide which I like best.
In the meantime, my Glock 23 provides adequate protection.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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Just a guess, but maybe the increase in small concealed 9mm pistols has renewed interest in that caliber.
I sure want a Glock 43 or 43x qs soon as I can hold each and decide which I like best.
In the meantime, my Glock 23 provides adequate protection.
While I'm here, a big shout out to Chad!!! That Seiko you sold me hasn't missed yet.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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Just a guess, but maybe the increase in small concealed 9mm pistols has renewed interest in that caliber.
I sure want a Glock 43 or 43x qs soon as I can hold each and decide which I like best.
In the meantime, my Glock 23 provides adequate protection.
While I'm here, a big shout out to Chad!!! That Seiko you sold me hasn't missed yet. Look @ the Sig p365. It can hold 13 rounds (10+1 factory) in a platform barely larger than the G43, that only holds 6+1. I'll take twice as many rounds in a slightly larger platform all day.
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Just a guess, but maybe the increase in small concealed 9mm pistols has renewed interest in that caliber.
I sure want a Glock 43 or 43x qs soon as I can hold each and decide which I like best.
In the meantime, my Glock 23 provides adequate protection.
While I'm here, a big shout out to Chad!!! That Seiko you sold me hasn't missed yet. Shield arms makes a mag for the 43x and 48. 15 rounds flush fit.
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Re: 9mm vs 40 S&W- ammo availability
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I was at a estate auction in january and picked up 2500 9mmfmj for $82.00. 5k FMj bullets to reload and 5k 9mm brass for $200. A butt load of hunting ammo that I wont go into now. It would make you turn green.
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Most professional trainers these days have been advocating 9mm for quite some time.. I have 45 and 9, no 40s Daily carry is a P365 with Hornady Critiical Duty 135g +P Also have a G19 loaded with same and Wilson Combat 8" AR loaded with the same.. killed a number of pigs including 100 yard headshot and a doe at 60 yards with it. I don't want to get shot with anything but I feel good about my chances using it if, God forbid, the need arose.
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Most professional trainers these days have been advocating 9mm for quite some time.. I have 45 and 9, no 40s Daily carry is a P365 with Hornady Critiical Duty 135g +P Also have a G19 loaded with same and Wilson Combat 8" AR loaded with the same.. killed a number of pigs including 100 yard headshot and a doe at 60 yards with it. I don't want to get shot with anything but I feel good about my chances using it if, God forbid, the need arose.
From tests I've seen, that Critical Defense clogs up when denim & other materials are thrown into the ballistic equation. I figured you'd be running Federal HST as well.
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