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New .270 pet loads
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10/30/18 04:49 PM
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lets take it RETRO!!!! many on here have never heard of Jack O'Connor and the .270 WINCHESTER. yes, you read it correctly. Winchester, NOT, Creedmoor. Any way, My first deer rifle was a Remington 700 BDL Circa 1969. I sent the barreled action to Brown Precision in 1985 and had my first "custom" rifle built around the old action.. My go to load forever was 59.5gr H4831 along with 90% of other .270 handloaders. So now, again, I have a new/old .270 and ready to load for it. What's your "modern day" Pet Load for your .270 Win. I have 130gr bullets arriving today. Gun has 1-10 factory barrel.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/30/18 05:27 PM
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I shot 130 grain bronze points and corelocks and 140 grain ballistic tips for factory ammo in mine. When I started handloading I never loaded any 130's. I have loaded 150 grain partitions, ballistic tips, x bullets, Hornady interlocks and some reduced load 110 grain sierra prohunters.
The reduced loads are with about 36 grains of h4895 and the 150 grain loads I believe are somewhere around 50 grains of h4350 if memory serves me.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/30/18 05:34 PM
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As you know I have not loaed for the 270 in years, do not rememebr that loa either. I would try old familiar in the new rifle and see how it works
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/30/18 11:10 PM
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I run 140gr Berger VLD with 52.5gr H4831 running around 2750 I think in my Winchester mod 54. It’s a light load but don’t want to push an 80 year old gun. Plus it shoots lights out
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 02:38 AM
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Thanks Teal28, you seating the VLDH magazine length?
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 03:14 AM
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Being an avid reader of Jack O'Connor and long time 270 Winchester user I will share my secret data with you Buzz..... Note most of this data is from Jack himself. What your looking at is what Bruce Hodgdon gave out when you stopped by and bought powder that he sold in brown paper bags in the 50's. This particular data on mimeograph paper was published the year I was born. I got this back in the 1980's along with two Old canisters of powder that has been discontinued over 40 years ago. I made the mistake of trying to keep the cans with powder in them and about 15 years ago one can literally was dissolved by the powder so I dumped the other can to save it since I have never seen another like it.
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"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
Jack O'Connor 1963
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 03:58 AM
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What a piece of history !!! Thank you so much for sharing DStroud !!!
Its funny, not much changes, Hogdons max load is STILL 60gr H4831.
I remember my Uncle (my shooting/hunting/reloading mentor) bought a "keg" of surplus 4831 in the late 60's. I remember him giving me 2 "ice cream" quart containers of it with tops taped on.
Ah, the Good Old Days !!!
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 04:02 AM
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What a piece of history !!! Thank you so much for sharing DStroud !!!
Its funny, not much changes, Hogdons max load is STILL 60gr H4831.
I remember my Uncle (my shooting/hunting/reloading mentor) bought a "keg" of surplus 4831 in the late 60's. I remember him giving me 2 "ice cream" quart containers of it with tops taped on.
Ah, the Good Old Days !!! Wait.. did you actually SHOOT this.. and LIVE TO TELL ABOUT IT?? It’s a miracle you didn’t die on site and blow your toes off.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 03:18 PM
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Looking at the O'Conner data, that stuff is HOT!!!!! You can't put 57 grains of IMR 4350 (H4350 didn't exist then) behind a 130 grain bullet in a 270 Win and not have pressure now. I know from experience the old load data is not the same as today's powder. Yes, it's called the same, but it's not the same. I have some older Sierra data manuals and their loads are VERY hot, and not safe with the older data. So, I would not recommend copying this data to use.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 03:49 PM
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For the last 8 years I have been using 58 gr of H 4831 under a 130 gr interlock. also use mag primer. Very good load for me in two rifles.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 04:03 PM
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4676 what powder is or was this?
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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4676 what powder is or was this? My quick Google fu shows it to be an old IMR 4676 powder. It's in the burn rate of 4895. The low powder charges paired with light bullet and decent velocity tell me it is a faster burning rifle powder. There's a lot of older discontinued rifle powders out there. I have a few of them.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 05:37 PM
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When I shot .270 my pet load was- Win Lr primer, 57. gr IMR 4831, 130 sierra game king.
I don't recall what brass, back then it was likely Rem or Win. Don't know what todays data says about it.
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10/31/18 06:32 PM
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I favor IMR 4350 with 130 grain bullets in my 270s. My Dad, rest his soul, liked 4831. I still have a box with a load data label he put together some 50 years ago; a little warm compared to more recent data:
Me and ol' RUGER, 74 years and still shooting.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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10/31/18 06:59 PM
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Thanks Teal28, you seating the VLDH magazine length? Don't remember off the top of my head what the OAL is but ya its right at mag length. Gun has a deep throat so I had to go long.
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10/31/18 09:43 PM
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/01/18 01:25 AM
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Since about 1980, my 270 load has been 59 gr of H4831 or H4831sc behind a Nosler 130 gr SBBT or BT. I don’t need a new load.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/01/18 12:22 PM
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130gr Sierra btsp with 53.0gr IMR-4350.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/01/18 01:49 PM
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My .270 is my go-to hunting rifle. I bought it because it was a great deal, took it to the range and shot a 1/2" group with Remington 130gr Core-loct. Ive stuck with using cheap Remington in it since. I have had other much more expensive rifles that wont do that with handloads or expensive factory ammo. Love my .270.
I had one other .270 that was incredibly accurate. It was a Marlin XL series bolt action that I bought from Academy for under $300. It could shoot a 3/4" group with cheap Federal 130gr. I sold it and regretted it after going through a couple rifles that struggled for a 1" group. The .270 caliber chose me.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/01/18 02:36 PM
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/01/18 03:12 PM
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Clearly I am not hip with you reloaders and custom ammo boys. I couldn't imagine why someone needed a .270 round to put down a sick house cat.
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/01/18 06:54 PM
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all set just waiting in my bullets to get here, range report coming'
Kmon1, Kevin, the dies worked great!!!!
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11/01/18 07:00 PM
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lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: New .270 pet loads
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11/02/18 02:34 AM
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Scott inspired me.
"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
Jack O'Connor 1963
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11/02/18 02:47 AM
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Clearly I am not hip with you reloaders and custom ammo boys. I couldn't imagine why someone needed a .270 round to put down a sick house cat. Gotta minimize meat damage.
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