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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: DH3] #7173943 05/19/18 11:16 AM
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garyrapp55 has offered that the scope "sucks" with NO explanation. if you have ever looked through a better scope you too would know that scope that comes with the combo sucks, I don't need to explainPerhaps he is an elitist who thinks that it is necessary to put a $300 scope on a $300 rifle.would an elitist use a $300 scope He is absolutely incorrect when he suggest not many mods are available for the Axis. Think Boyd's adjustable gunstocks, trigger kits on Ebay, etc.,etc.what brand aftermarket barrel did you put on yours?

The comment about "within it's range" is ludicrous.any and every rifle should hunt within its range, I suppose you hunt elephant from a mile away with your 6.5CM? you could also use your 22LR since range doesn't matter What exactly is the range of a 6.5 Creedoorthe OP didn't say anything about 6.5CM but to answer your question, look at ballistic charts readily available online

You DO NOT have to spend big bucks to get an accurate rifle hat will humanely kill any deer that walks the earth.I agree 100%
See a pic of the target I shot yesterday with my Axis 6.5 Creedmoor..I am still developing loads for this rifleI would hope so, try an additional 143 grains of H4350 like you mentioned twice already today in 2 different threads proving it wasn't a typo
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You obviously did not read my posts correctly. I have never suggested a load of 43 grains H4350 to ANYONE. As a matter of fact, I solidly opposed it, you need to stop sleeping thru reading classes bro. BTW, you wrote 143 GRAINS...that was the bullet weight, my friend. It would be a miracle to try to stuff a Creedmoor case with that amount of ANY powder. Try to redline your way out of this goof..
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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7173962 05/19/18 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Goodo Texas Boy
Hello,

If anyone is using a Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle to hunt (deer and hog in Texas) with may I please have your review of how you like the rifle? I am thinking of buying a Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle Combo package with scope already mounted on sale for $299. This is a decent price for me. My first time shooting rifle.

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The Axis is a good starter rifle. I'm a pretty big Savage fan but I don't own an Axis. A hunting buddy of mine does though. He bought his Axis package pre Accu-Trigger in 308 and pulled it out at the ranch. I didn't care for the trigger and neither did he, so he dropped a new trigger in it and made all the difference. That gun's been killing animals for 4 yrs now with no problems. Good shooting rifle for what he uses it for. You don't have to spend a lot of money on a hunting rifle.

Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7173982 05/19/18 12:24 PM
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I've heard really good things about savage. I'm not a fancy gun guy, can't afford to be. I have a Mossberg atr100 in 308 that came with a Simons scope. it's a Cheap price on a good rifle and clear scope. You don't need a $1000 rifle with $1500 scope and $5 a shot hand loaded rounds to hunt.
Get the savage, get in the woods and harvest some animals. If you don't like it sell it and upgrade to a nicer (more expensive) rifle.


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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #7173989 05/19/18 12:39 PM
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The Axis will do fine, especially since they’ve started putting the accu-trigger in those rifles.

You gotta ask yourself: do you want a family heirloom now, or something that will get the job done cheaply and effectively?
Only the Axis XP has the accutrigger. I would not buy the regular old Axis.

Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7174100 05/19/18 02:56 PM
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The XP at Carters..less than $300.

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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7174106 05/19/18 03:07 PM
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FWIW, there are some people on the Savage Shooters website that are having trouble with FTF (Failure to fire) on Axis rifles with the Accu-Trigger. Some say it has to do with the front action screw coming loose, others say it is the technique of how to pull the trigger.
Some are reporting light firing pin strikes or no firing pin indentation at all.
I have experienced none of the above on my Axis XP with the standard (non-accu-trigger). Just sayin!

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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7174257 05/19/18 06:49 PM
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Just my opinion but the Axis is a good rifle for the price. They are accurate as are most Savage rifles. Get the one with the accu trigger. When used properly there are no issues with it. There are several upgrades you can make over time. Different stock or you add a chassis.

Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7174360 05/19/18 10:38 PM
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Nobody can tell you if that is good enough for you. That is for you to decide. It is a cheap but fairly accurate rifle. For your first rifle I think you would be fine buying it. Savage makes a decent rifle. The Axis is the cheapest rifle they make so if that is what suits your needs then pull the trigger and buy it. It is a good hunting weapon.


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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7174615 05/20/18 03:07 AM
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Any rifle that will shoot under a minute will be just fine to learn on. An Axis in a short action would be a great choice. I would urge you to invest more in a better quality optic. You won’t lose money or be held back by a cheap rifle, they’re all pretty accurate these days. But a cheap scope is a losing proposition. Get some Seekins rings and a Trijicon Accupoint 3x9. And if you’re in the Houston area, let me know and I’ll show you how to mount your scope, zero it, and all that stuff.

Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Texas buckeye] #7175011 05/20/18 07:35 PM
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The stock trigger was heavy and I was still able to shoot it well with the stock trigger, but I realized how much a difference the trigger made on sub-MOA shooting when I switched it out. That’s the only mod I have done on my axis.


Thank you for the review.

Did you upgrade the scope?

Also what does "sub-MOA shooting" means?


Scope was stock for a while, then threw on a Nikon scope that is a little better but not much. It isn’t needed but put it on there just to see and haven’t taken it off yet, but that’s me being lazy. So the answer is yes, I did change out the scope but it is absolutely not necessary.

Sub-moa means shooting less than a minute of angle (MOA). It’s terminology that is used with shooting, and roughly equates to 1” at 100 yards. That works for most people, but there are way better explanations on the internet. It’s all about optics and having 60 minutes in a degree, and when applied to shooting it is roughly 1” at 100 yards, 2” at 200, 3” at 300 and so forth. A lot of times you will need to figure out what ammo your rifle “likes” before you can shoot tight groups, and I would recommend getting several factory loads of different manufacturers and trying each in your rifle to see which shoots best. There’s a lot to go into breaking in your gun and testing loads, so once you get your rifle picked out and bought and are ready to start shooting it, put up another post about breaking it in and there will be plenty of responses.


Thank you very much Texas buckeye.

Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: DH3] #7175026 05/20/18 07:57 PM
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The XP at Carters..less than $300.


Thank you.

I saw that XP at Carters.

I am considering the following below and leaning towards the savage-111-trophy-hunter rifle. I really like the Nikon 3x9x40 scope that comes with the rifle already mounted. I looked through it at Carters the other day. Plus comes with a smoother trigger pull.

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/savage-...ildCatid=552977 or

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/savage-...ldCatid=4856091

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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7175029 05/20/18 08:00 PM
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I think that Trophy Hunter would be a good choice. up

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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Crews] #7175043 05/20/18 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Crews
Any rifle that will shoot under a minute will be just fine to learn on. An Axis in a short action would be a great choice. I would urge you to invest more in a better quality optic. You won’t lose money or be held back by a cheap rifle, they’re all pretty accurate these days. But a cheap scope is a losing proposition. Get some Seekins rings and a Trijicon Accupoint 3x9. And if you’re in the Houston area, let me know and I’ll show you how to mount your scope, zero it, and all that stuff.


Thank you Crews and appreciate the help.

I am in Houston Texas near American Shooting Centers outdoor shooting range. Are you near this area? I can definitely use some helping zero it after purchase. But I save that task and work after I purchase rifle. one thing at time.

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I think that Trophy Hunter would be a good choice. up
X2.

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I think that Trophy Hunter would be a good choice. up
X2.


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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #7175099 05/20/18 09:38 PM
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I think that Trophy Hunter would be a good choice. up
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Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7175130 05/20/18 10:18 PM
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I have 223, 243, 308. the 223/243 are good shooters. Neither have accutrigger, I did DIY mod. Both are under MOA with factory ammo. Hornday whitetail for 243 and fiocchi 50/40gr NBT for 223. The 243 will shoot a few diff brands MOA or slightly better.
The 308 isn't horrible, just not as good as the other two. I shoot 150 NBT federal premium and get MOA with 3 shot groups. The 3rd always loosened group/get hot easy with thin barrel.
I ran a cheapo tasco for a few years on 223, now have Burris veracity. Shoot under 3" and 300 yrds. I am trying to shoot longer distances (cheaper practice with 223.
I run a Nikon prostaff on 243.
I ran the factory weaver on 308, now trying a Athlon with lighted reticle. I hunt in thick woods, though reticle could help in low light.
These guns are light and the recoil is deff present in higher calibers. Good guns for hunting. If we are talking paper at long ranges, prob. not ideal. They will get job done easly, and fit entry level price point.
Cheap enough to just get another gun down the road if want something nicer/more specific.

TC compass also good entry level (cheap), but shoots well.
Most all guns can kill animals <200 yrds with factory ammo, cheap scope(holds zero), and practice.

Re: Review Request on Savage Axis Bolt-Action Rifle [Re: Goodo Texas Boy] #7175229 05/20/18 11:54 PM
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I have had an Axis in 25-06 for several years and it is quite accurate out of the box for hunting, good enough that that I haven't even reloaded for it. I put a Nikon scope on it before I ever shot it. My only other mod is an extended magazine that I found online being made by an individual mating an Axis mag to a BAR mag. This rifle has replaced my long time deer rifle for regular use.


Thank you bronco71 for the review.

What type of Nikon scope are you using?
Prostaff 3-9x50

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Originally Posted By: Goodo Texas Boy

Thank you Crews and appreciate the help.

I am in Houston Texas near American Shooting Centers outdoor shooting range. Are you near this area? I can definitely use some helping zero it after purchase. But I save that task and work after I purchase rifle. one thing at time.


When I have no other option than a public range, that’s the one I go to. I’m happy to help mentor a new hunter. You let me know when that time arrives and I’ll come show you the ropes.

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Originally Posted By: Crews

When I have no other option than a public range, that’s the one I go to. I’m happy to help mentor a new hunter. You let me know when that time arrives and I’ll come show you the ropes.


Thank you very much Crews, I appreciate the help. Getting some hands on advice from a experienced hunter will be great for me. I will PM you. I will getting rifle in about 2 weeks from now.

Thanks Crews.

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For low-recoil, I would not get a 270. JMHO. A 308, 6.5 creedmoor, or something similar would be a much better choice.

Also, the 111 trophy hunter is fine for a hunting gun, but the lite barrel won't hold up to more than 3-4 shots at the range before you'll have to let it cool down. If it's purely for hunting, that's fine. If you're wanting to practice with it at the range, I promise you will regret going with a lite barreled rifle. Get at least a medium contour. They're very easy to find in the Savage Axis line at wal mart.

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For low-recoil, I would not get a 270. JMHO. A 308, 6.5 creedmoor, or something similar would be a much better choice.

Also, the 111 trophy hunter is fine for a hunting gun, but the lite barrel won't hold up to more than 3-4 shots at the range before you'll have to let it cool down. If it's purely for hunting, that's fine. If you're wanting to practice with it at the range, I promise you will regret going with a lite barreled rifle. Get at least a medium contour. They're very easy to find in the Savage Axis line at wal mart.


Somehow, I have communicated this several times to the OP. The Creedmoor shoots a 143 grain bullet with MUCH LESS recoil than the .270 that shoots a 130 grain bullet. The AXIS XP has a free floating barrel that is not effected as much by barrel heating.
For some reason, he intends to spend more money on a rifle that will cause him to have recoil/flinching issues, guaranteed.
It's his decision, money, and learning experience..I wish him well..


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Shooting .270 with 130 grain ammo is plenty of bullet to kill any White tail, mule deer or hog. That round is not going to beat you up and create a flinching problem if shouldered properly. My 14 year old daughter never complained or had a problem making lethal shots with it.


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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Shooting .270 with 130 grain ammo is plenty of bullet to kill any White tail, mule deer or hog. That round is not going to beat you up and create a flinching problem if shouldered properly. My 14 year old daughter never complained or had a problem making lethal shots with it.


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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Shooting .270 with 130 grain ammo is plenty of bullet to kill any White tail, mule deer or hog. That round is not going to beat you up and create a flinching problem if shouldered properly. My 14 year old daughter never complained or had a problem making lethal shots with it.


Why buy a long action, burn all that powder, have more recoil, and spend more on ammo, when a short action cartridge will do the work? 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, .308

I'm not .270 bashing, way too many hunters love the cartridge, and I am not arguing with the truthfulness of your statement.


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