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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 03:14 AM
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I'd do a 338 RCM...works great out of a 20-22 inch barrel...if a dedicated elk rifle nothing hits a big bull like a 338. You can push225s- 250s at reasonable velocities, and with the 338s decent BCs if you need to reach out there no problem. Just my two cents...
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 04:14 AM
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The 338 RCM is a little smaller cartridge than the WSM case. It holds about 5-6 grains less powder capacity, has the optimum 30 degree shoulder angle, and is about .100" shorter than the WSM case. If you wanted a true short action round, the RCM would be it. If you have a long action, the 338 WSM would be good. I started load work up on the 338 WSM as a short action in a short mag box, but the 250 grain wouldn't fit. So, we went long action, seated the bullet out much further and gained a lot more powder capacity for higher speeds. 2702 fps with a 250 Berger in a 22" barrel is nice! I really want to build me a 338 WSM on a Tikka, which is a long action action, and fits nicely in it. Put it on a Proof barrel, and that would make a great light weight, magnum rifle!
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 01:41 PM
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I shot a 1400 pound cow with a 300 Wsm. Dropped like it had been hit with a sledge hammer. that is a BIG cow, bigger that lots of bulls
when the going gets really tough, I sit down and rest
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 01:44 PM
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I shot a 1400 pound cow with a 300 Wsm. Dropped like it had been hit with a sledge hammer. that is a BIG cow, bigger that lots of bulls Actually bigger than every bull on the planet.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 04:10 PM
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I shot a 1400 pound cow with a 300 Wsm. Dropped like it had been hit with a sledge hammer. that is a BIG cow, bigger that lots of bulls A bovine cow can get heavier than that. He may be talking bovine.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 07:36 PM
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I've been tempted to try mine out on bovine the last couple weeks.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 07:39 PM
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I've been tempted to try mine out on bovine the last couple weeks. Ive been tempted many times but never gave in
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 07:46 PM
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7mm WSM Creedmoor Ackley Improved
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 09:11 PM
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I shot a 1400 pound cow with a 300 Wsm. Dropped like it had been hit with a sledge hammer. that is a BIG cow, bigger that lots of bulls A bovine cow can get heavier than that. He may be talking bovine. I don’t know what else he could be talking about. I assumed bovine when he said it.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/11/17 09:22 PM
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I was automatically thinking cow elk. Shooting an actual cow didn’t enter my mind. Y’all are almost certainly right.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 12:35 AM
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Who has ever hunted on a deer lease and not wanted to shoot a cow or two?
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 01:16 PM
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WELL everyone was talking about ELK, so i thought he was too. 1400 lb is a big bovine cow also
when the going gets really tough, I sit down and rest
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 02:06 PM
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Wrong post
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 02:16 PM
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You should try Berger Ballistic Tips. They shoot 600 yards with no drop at all.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 02:57 PM
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270 wsm or 300 wsm would be great. I have both and took my cow bison with a 165 gr A Frame last Jan. One shot kill. My last moose was taken with a 270 wsm 140 gr bullet.
No need to shoot out to 600 for elk, get closer.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 03:05 PM
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 05:26 PM
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Any of them would work fine, so it’s really just personal preference. I like a larger bullet for elk, so my personal mountain rifle for bigger game is a .300 WSM.
I shoot 180 grain bullets. Same, 300wsm and she has taken several Elk, most with one round using factory Rem scirroco 180grn. Have also taken many with a 7mm as well, also using 180grn factory ammo, imo both are better at range than most shooters behind the wheel and both definitely will put down an elk.
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 07:26 PM
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7 WSM. I agree with what has been stated that they will all work. I will be the odd man out and say I choose the 7 wsm. The 30's and 7's have a lot more available in the way of projectiles over the 270 wsm and I really like the way the 7's fly. And yeah I already know that I may need to size 300 wsm brass and fire form it to 7 wsm dimensions. In my opinion it is also the most capable of the wsm's at distance. Sounds like a fun project
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/12/17 08:01 PM
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/17/17 03:54 AM
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/17/17 04:01 AM
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300 Rem. Short Action Ultra mag!
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Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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12/19/17 09:19 AM
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I’d personally go with the 300WSM.
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