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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/11/17 04:54 PM
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Black02z28
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I've only ever seen one deer clear an 8' fence, seen a bunch failing at it though. I did see an Eland clear a 7' fence flat footed in Africa once, still cant believe something that size getting that much ups.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/11/17 05:12 PM
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redchevy
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Hunted a lowfence place for years that bordered a HF property. After a big rain there was always an influx of new exotics to see. I don't doubt some deer can jump a fence, but I don't think they often do without being pressured etc.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/11/17 05:54 PM
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Rustler
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I've been around a few high fences, I don't know anything about jumpers, never witnessed a whitetail make it over even a 7' fence. Not saying they can't, just I haven't seen it.
I have seen pigs, armadillos, skunks, dogs & coyotes dig under and leave a big enough gap for deer to get out. High fences are just as prone to failure as any other fence, wash outs, poorly engineered water gaps, loose / sandy soil, tree / limb fall & cut on purpose.
There are a few HF places near our place in Blanco county, it isn't at all unusual to see escapee's wondering around very near to them.
There is a HF place about 4-5 miles from our place in Young county, if you drive down the road it is on it isn't unusual to see escapee's very near to it. Never saw one on our place.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/11/17 06:38 PM
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Jimbo
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Last year I talked to a neighbor who told me he killed a doe with an ear tag. He said he didn't notice the tag until after he shot, and he saw something flopping around on the side of the does head as she ran off. I told him it was mine if it had a number 29 on it. He stuttered and said, man I'm sorry, if I.....I said "nawh....I've been seeing that doe off and on, and I had her up close enough to see the number, and I'm just pulling your leg.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 05:18 AM
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I know that they have Wild Hogs that have escaped from the hunting ranch up in Maine lol. They also have them escape from a place in SW New Hampshire and you can get permission to shoot them. When I was staying across from the Rose River in Virginia, I seen a huge Elk walk right by the window of the modern day yurt cabin that we were staying in. I thought I was see8ng things at first and then thought that it must have escaped from some local hunting ranch, but I looked up Virginia Elk on the internet and found out that they released a bunch of Rocky Mountain Elk in to the area. Last I read that they only take two deer tags to hunt one too with no lottery system for them. Later on the next morning, we seen a small herd of them on the side of the mountain where the power lines ran up. Here’s a link so you all don’t think that I am senile and crazy lol. http://www.roanoke.com/news/virginia/elk...17a43b2370.html
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 01:18 PM
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Jimbo
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You can't keep people behind a wall or fence with watch towers and guards, so does anyone really think a double wire fence will keep an animal in if they really want out?
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 01:52 PM
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The ranch I hunt has a 8.5' fence with 1.5' laid flat for grass to grow through. supposed to keep animals from digging under but that doesn't work. Never seen a deer jump the fence but have see a few try. A 3.5yo doe was running from a buck and tried it. her front legs made it over but the body and back half didn't. Fence acts like a trampoline. She shot back 20'. Its was funny and violent at the same time. Our biggest problems are water gaps.in heavy rain years is a constant issue keeping them clear and closed. I'm not aware if any of the deer have gotten out but I bet a few have.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 04:16 PM
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My FIL watched an 8 point jump from our place onto a neighboring high fence zoo pasture. Man I bet he was confused when he looked around and saw a bunch of African animals running around.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 04:49 PM
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Hunter Daddy
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I was at a Texas Trophy Hunters show in San Antonio a few years back and a guide had a booth set up with film of a buck clearing a 12' fence. What had happened was a helicopter was doing a survey on a high fence ranch and was chasing the buck. The buck was a mature "trophy" sized buck and he just cleared the fence. I saw it with my own eyes and that fence was tall. I've heard that when deer are pressured or if a buck really wants to get to a doe, then a full sized deer can easily clear an 8' fence. If not pressured then the deer will not normally want to jump an 8' fence. Some deer are like dogs. Some dogs like to jump out of yards and some dogs just stay put.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 04:59 PM
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redchevy
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Was there a big 12 foot measuring stick next to the fence?
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: redchevy]
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12/12/17 05:04 PM
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Rustler
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Was there a big 12 foot measuring stick next to the fence? Well of course, no hunter ever lies about distance, kinda like fishermen & weight.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 06:37 PM
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Hunter Daddy
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There were 3 men standing next to fence where the buck jumped it. The fence was twice their height. The guide was even remarking that he has never seen a buck jump a 12' fence till now.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 06:43 PM
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I would be hesitant to call anyone a liar. I have family near Vernon with 5 acres high fenced with an orchard inside the fence. Most mornings when the fruit is ripe and falling off the trees, she has to go out and run 4-5 doe out. She says they will jump in but won’t jump out.
While it is obvious most deer won’t/can’t/don’t jump a high fence, doesn’t mean they can’t. Hell, a mule can jump 6’ and I’m pretty sure a deer can jump higher than a mule...
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 06:48 PM
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Rustler
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Sorry, my previous post was meant as more of a joke, like fishermen & weight, didn't intend for anyone to take it seriously or as I was calling anyone a liar.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 06:57 PM
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mbavo
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 07:05 PM
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Spooked a big buck once that jumped an 8' his hind hoofs caught the top of it though and he did a full front flip in mid air right in front of me.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: SouthWestIron]
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12/12/17 08:11 PM
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Jimbo
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Spooked a big buck once that jumped an 8' his hind hoofs caught the top of it though and he did a full front flip in mid air right in front of me. Shush now!....Everyone knows it's a myth that a deer can jump a high fence.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/12/17 09:37 PM
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my cousin just had a buck shot off his 50 acres that had wire wrapped up in its antlers. Huge buck for the area and no doubt an escapee. I saw that buck at the processor....absolute giant of a deer.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/12/17 09:47 PM
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Who said that they can’t? Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anyone say that. So many people are up in arms about something that is claimed by zero to very few people.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: txshntr]
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12/12/17 10:27 PM
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crooked horn
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I would be hesitant to call anyone a liar. I have family near Vernon with 5 acres high fenced with an orchard inside the fence. Most mornings when the fruit is ripe and falling off the trees, she has to go out and run 4-5 doe out. She says they will jump in but won’t jump out.
While it is obvious most deer won’t/can’t/don’t jump a high fence, doesn’t mean they can’t. Hell, a mule can jump 6’ and I’m pretty sure a deer can jump higher than a mule... . We have 6' pipe corrals in our working pens, more than once over the many years have had cattle/bulls jump out without touching a rail. Just depends on how worked up they are. Deer do appear to be more athletic than Brangus cattle.
Thank you...thank you very much
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Sneaky]
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12/12/17 10:44 PM
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Who said that they can’t? Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anyone say that. So many people are up in arms about something that is claimed by zero to very few people. Deer jump high fences all the time...I have seen film from a car driving down a road and jumped deer outside the fence ...they ran along side the road and all jumped back in the fenced area. It was neat to see so many jump a fence that high...rest assured they can and do jump 8 ft. fences. Please post video Simple.....it makes pen shooters feel less horrible if they believe deer can jump in and out of their pens.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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12/13/17 01:51 AM
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Who said that they can’t? Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anyone say that. So many people are up in arms about something that is claimed by zero to very few people. Deer jump high fences all the time...I have seen film from a car driving down a road and jumped deer outside the fence ...they ran along side the road and all jumped back in the fenced area. It was neat to see so many jump a fence that high...rest assured they can and do jump 8 ft. fences. Please post video Simple.....it makes pen shooters feel less horrible if they believe deer can jump in and out of their pens. That’s one person, and he didn’t say that it doesn’t happen. He did infer that, I believe, but an inference is little to go by. He could also be inferring that it doesn’t happen often enough to use as an argument.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Sneaky]
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12/13/17 02:18 PM
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Who said that they can’t? Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anyone say that. So many people are up in arms about something that is claimed by zero to very few people. Simple.....it makes pen shooters feel less horrible if they believe deer can jump in and out of their pens. That’s one person, and he didn’t say that it doesn’t happen. He did infer that, I believe, but an inference is little to go by. He could also be inferring that it doesn’t happen often enough to use as an argument. I'm pretty sure most who read and posted on this thread understand what he meant. I'm impressed that members didn't turn this into a high fence trolling thread and kept the discussion going without throwing insults back and forth like we usually see until the thread gets locked. Killing an animal is a very emotional experience for most humans. When others criticize that experience emotions run high, as should be expected. Well done members keeping emotions in check and keeping the discussion civil.
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Re: High fence escapees
[Re: Captain Luke]
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12/13/17 04:03 PM
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