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 Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 07:50 PM
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Hear that pin drop?!?
Me too.
Hint.............(grin)
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: J.G.]
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11/11/17 07:56 PM
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308 shooting 130 grain TSX going 2920 ft per second at 400 yards produces 1098 foot pounds of energy. the 6.5 Creedmoor shooting 130 grain Berger hunting bullet at 2780 feet per second at 400 yards produces 1344 foot-pounds of energy. those are my two rifles. I know it's hard for you to believe you do not know everything but that's the truth. you are extremely knowledgeable in a lot of things just not everything. Never said I know everything. And your numbers are your numbers. I have no desire to plug them in, and verify, I have the ability to take your word for it. However, for my uses, I would NEVER load that bullet in a .308, it's just not my cup of tea. But if it works for you, and you are happy with it, then that is all that matters. You are comparing a pretty good BC 6.5mm at a decent velocity, to a poor BC .308 at a high velocity (especially for a .308) It's not an apples to apples comparison, in your two examples. that bullet in my 308 will shoot a 3 inch group at 500 yards with a 10 Power Scope I have taken an antelope with that bullet at 554 yards one shot in the heart. With excellent performance through and through.
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 07:58 PM
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redmist1
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sorry if that's not up to your standards
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: J.G.]
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11/11/17 08:01 PM
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redmist1
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Cite the 308 Load that your Delusion(s) are predicated upon.
It will be funny.
Hint............... .30 cal 178 gr ELD-X, 24" barrel, 2700 fps MV 6.5mm 143 gr ELD-X, 24" barrel, 2800 fps MV. .308 delivers more energy to 500 yards. Yes, I have loaded both. I suppose this was an apples-to-apples comparison though
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:03 PM
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Busheler
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You gotta neck the suck outta a 308,to get any traction...............(grin)
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: redmist1]
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11/11/17 08:07 PM
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J.G.
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sorry if that's not up to your standards Holy crap, dude. Did you not read the whole post?
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: redmist1]
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11/11/17 08:07 PM
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J.G.
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Cite the 308 Load that your Delusion(s) are predicated upon.
It will be funny.
Hint............... .30 cal 178 gr ELD-X, 24" barrel, 2700 fps MV 6.5mm 143 gr ELD-X, 24" barrel, 2800 fps MV. .308 delivers more energy to 500 yards. Yes, I have loaded both. I suppose this was an apples-to-apples comparison though Same bullet maker, same bullet model, same barrel length. How else would one compare?
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:08 PM
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J.G.
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Yall carry on.
This has become a waste of time, feeding trolls.
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:12 PM
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Busheler
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Reverse was the ONLY direction you could go.
Hint.............
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:28 PM
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redmist1
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Btt
Last edited by redmist1; 11/11/17 09:45 PM.
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:32 PM
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This thread reminds me of a gag a college buddy and I would pull at bars many, many moons ago.....we'd be sitting there when one of us would look over and say to the other: #1 - You know mine is longer.... #2 - No its not.... #1 - Sure it is....
#2 - You're delusional...#1 - You know mine is longer!
#2 - Nope, mine is!Standing up...
#1 - YOU KNOW MINE IS LONGER!
#2 - NO, MINE IS!Then reaching for our belt buckles we would unbuckle them, yank off our belts and hold them up to see whose was longer.... Then the "winner" would say, "Told ya so!" ....and we'd put our belts back on..... 
I believe in science and Iβm an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:38 PM
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Facts is the most unsettling,to them with the least.
Reverse is the ONLY direction they can travel.
Mighta' mentioned it were gonna get funny.
Hint................(grin)
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:39 PM
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redmist1
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very good story except some of us aren't always telling everybody ours is longer. but yes point is taken and I digress
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:41 PM
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Busheler was, on another forum and using several other names, reduced to just a post or two per day, after a long period of doing just what hes doing here. Redmist1 is just a running buddy of his.
Busheler is actually quite knowledgeable, but that wont compensate for his manner. If I remember correctly, there was one thread where he made 75or more comments, none of which were at all helpful or even consistent with the topic. If this forum has a flush button, push it now.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:42 PM
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Busheler
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You reserve the right to find me "mistaken"...but not the "knowledge","experience" or "results",which is an unsettling FACT for you.
Hint...............
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: 603Country]
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11/11/17 08:44 PM
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Busheler was, on another forum and using several other names, reduced to just a post or two per day, after a long period of doing just what hes doing here. Redmist1 is just a running buddy of his.
Busheler is actually quite knowledgeable, but that wont compensate for his manner. If I remember correctly, there was one thread where he made 75or more comments, none of which were at all helpful or even consistent with the topic. If this forum has a flush button, push it now. So many hurt feelers...
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:45 PM
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Busheler
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Rest assured,she KNOWS better than to do anything other than Whine.
Hint...............(grin)
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Busheler]
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11/11/17 08:49 PM
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You reserve the right to find me "mistaken"...but not the "knowledge","experience" or "results",which is an unsettling FACT for you.
Hint............... While that may be the case.....the manor and tact is tasteless, snarky, and immature.....  And that is coming from the most tasteless, snarky, and immature person I know....me! Adios Troll..... 
I believe in science and Iβm an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 08:51 PM
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Facts ain't for everyone. Congratulations?!?
Hint...........
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Busheler]
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11/11/17 09:04 PM
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Facts ain't for everyone. Congratulations?!?
Hint........... Yup....you chose to ignore my facts...... 
I believe in science and Iβm an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 09:06 PM
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If you are waiting for me,to fret your VERY Tender Feelers...it's gonna be a looooonnnnnggggggggg wait.
As an aside,Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery.
Bless your heart..............
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 09:10 PM
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bo3
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6.5Creedmore 147  308 208 amax 
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 09:14 PM
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bo3
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You're comparing two cases with approximately the same capacity. It just depends on what trade-offs you can live with.
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 09:14 PM
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What didja' factor,as starting velocities? I've never even heard of a 208? thanks for that info.  Laughing!..............
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Re: 16-18 barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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11/11/17 09:19 PM
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bo3
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2695 for the creedmoore and 2500 for the 308.
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