On 1 hand, they did you a favor by not selling you a Taurus. Personally, I'd rather have a sharp stick.

OTOH, the least educated counter monkeys you will ever encounter are in Academy, or other bg box chains. I've known 1 person who worked there a short time that I would trust. The rest are usually uncaring, ignorant & apathetic. They don't know anything about firearms, ammo, legal necessities for firearms, or customer service.

I would rather take off all my clothes & run backwards thru a cornfield than patronize the Academy gun counter.

Seems like you made a dumb mistake and are try to cast blame. They probably have the policy because they've gotten whacked for it in the past.

That's a very, very simple form to fill out. Next time check it? Or just be more careful?

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Still very odd. I'm one of those folks that has the same name as a convicted felon as well. I would get a delay 100% of the time. I finally got my CHL to help mitigate that little problem.

I don't understand why this is such a big deal with them really. The 4473 form isn't numbered or anything like that and if it was filled out incorrectly they could just tear it up and tell you to do another one as the first was not filled out in a satisfactory manner. Nothing illegal on either end of the transaction.

It was on an electronic Ipad type device, and was submitted electronically.

Just to be clear yes I made the mistake and screwed up. Who cares no big deal like I said didn't need gun just was getting it for the price. I'm not casting blame or trying to blame anyone but myself. Not even academy. But what I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THE 30 DAY BAN!!!~! What corporate dicwad came up with 30 days and why 30 days? I honestly thought maybe they would tell me come back tomorrow. But 30 days come on. What are they accomplishing with it? Why not 6 months, 1 year or hell how bout lifetime ban!! That would make the most sense. So for 30 days I can't buy a gun from academy, but I can anywhere else. That is if I don't screw up again!!!So what is 30 days a cooling off period? A study period? Or academy is just grounding me? Makes no sense. Is all I was trying to say. But thank you internet police, attorneys, experts and psychiatrist for helping me cope with this horrible mistake I have made. Until you certain few brought it to my attention I had no idea of the terrible irreversible mistake I had made! And how many lives I put in danger. Thank you again, And thank you academy for doing your part in keeping the US a safer place by your BS policy. (for 30 days at least)Hell even though my DL says I'm a citizen, my CHL and my birth certificate says I was born in Texas I'm beginning to 2nd guess myself and maybe I a an illegal. After all why would I put it down? Of course academy shouldn't trust a birth certificate. Especially from Hawaii. They have a way of convincing the world that an illegal is legal. Maybe that's what my hospital did. And while I have all these experts giving advice what box does a trangender check on the form? Male or female? Do they need to add a gender neutral box to the forms? Called ATF about this concern and they said they no longer have a direct bullchit line to the whitehouse under the current administration with a press 1 to screw the common law abiding citizen, so they were going to leave it up to the seller to use their common sense and good judgement like academy. And how does a deaf, blind person buy a gun if it's illegal to help or coach? Do they make a form in brail? they have a Spanish version, so why not every other language? maybe nog or napr can help me on some of these questions since they evidently are the experts and don't think 30day ban is onerous. And I took this advice https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learners/apply-citizenship and spent several hours filling out all the form and submitted them just to be sure of my status. My mom says don't worry at least I should be an anchor baby because she knows I was born in TX. Or the very least something about daca kid since I was forced to take Spanish in school and can now speak and write a little. I called the ARMY to see if they made a mistake and allowed an illegal to serve and all they could offer me was a sexual reassignment surgery for free paid for by your tax $ they said. I then called the college I graduated from to see if maybe they had made the same mistake of accepting an illegal and all they could offer me was a safe place with some play dough to play with. Tried to get ahold of someone in Dallas at Jerry's world where I once worked no answer they were busy practicing disrespecting our flag and vets in the form of free speech. Kid came home from school to day with a 30 day suspension because he asked another kid to play cowboys and Indians, they expelled him for 30 days for being a racist. Then I grounded him for 30 days just because that is my policy. I said don't worry I'm just preparing you for a corporate job at academy where you can sit around a pull stupid azz policies using NO COMMON SENSE out of your azz. My other son got suspended for, you guessed it 30 DAYS for having a PB&J sandwhich shaped like a pistol at school lunch. So I then grounded him for another 30 days so he too would be able to find employment at academys corporate headquarters. This kind of stuff happens in a country using NO COMMON SENSE!! And to think all this fell into place for checking the wrong box at academy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No offense OP, but you went to a big box store where a buncha idiots work, from the guys on the floor, to the managers, to the corporate attorneys; to buy a POS gun. If you knew anything about Academy (like them HIDING their AR-15s after the last major shooting), or how ignorant & apathetic their employees & policies are, you would never have tried to buy a gun there.

Next time, may I suggest you go to a smaller, privately owned gun store where they sell quality firearms, have employees that know WTF they are talking about, & owners/managers who know the law, & don't have the stupidest corporate policies I've ever heard of.

Consider this a learning experience & move on.

Their store, their rules. Take a deep breath and move on.

I have always liked Academy. But lately, I dread going in there. I will never buy another pair of shoes there again. Every time I find a pair I want to try on, you have to dig through all the random misplaced boxes on the shelf, to only find out they don't have your size. It's a butt whip.

Because it's not their job to tell you how to fill out the form properly so you can buy a gun. That's why.

They don't know if someone filled it out correctly the first time and then they are just mad because they got denied and now want to change their correct, truthful answers to incorrect, false ones just so they can pass the check.

This isn't always the case....stopped at a small gun store outside of Tyler a couple of years ago. Had a good deal on a pistol so I decided to get it. He had me fill out the form....I have a CDL with my PO for an address. I fill out the form...he calls it in...denied! Have to have a physical address that matches the ID. Said fine, my wife can buy it on her DL....nope, gotta wait 3 days before anyone can purchase that pistol. I said no one can walk into this store and purchase that pistol for 3 days...NOPE! Then sell us the one next to it....nope! Our policy is if you are denied then you have to wait....
Big steaming pile of

I went back to DPS to change my address....Since I have hasmat Texas told me I have to keep the PO since I have one....something to do with homeland security.....

So to "solve" the problem I just paid to have a state ID with my address....then last year they took it back....you now can only have one state ID, if you have a DL then that's it...oh, and I still can't change my address.....stupid!

I was told to just get my CCL and that will fix it....I don't care to have my name on another government list....just my personal preference....

Since then I've started to purchase firearms from individuals just to avoid all the government hassle.....

^^ The CHL is your answer. Sure, you would be under the column in some list that you have a CHL. So what? But if/when you purchase a new firearm in a store or from an FFL, there's no back ground check called in. Since it's not called in, there's no record or another firearm "linked" to you on record, just on paper. No one would know unless they went to that FFL and recorded down the paperwork. I've never quite understood that logic.

Didn't know that...thought you don't have to go thru the background check at the time of purchase but they still file the purchase with the feds.....

My father ordered me a margarita on my 20th b-day at chili's (which is legal in Texas for the yankees out there) and the pandemonium the ensued when the manager came out and said I couldn't have one was better than any margarita I've had since. In the end, company policy trumped state legislation lol. My dad ended up giving me his and we got "escorted" out the front door by some rent-a-cops. But hey, we did get our appetizers for free!

Correct. So when I transfer a firearm to a Texas CHL holder, they fill out the paperwork, and I check the box that says, basically, no back ground check is needed because the purchaser is exempt because of a CHL. I write down all the CHL numbers, and file it away. No NICS phone call happens. "They" would not even know you bought a firearm unless someone comes and physically goes through my paperwork.

If you get an out of state CHL (why, I have no idea!!! that's another story that's about as dump as a football bat), this does not qualify for exemption.

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Very interesting. So if a new gun purchased by a CHL holder was used in criminal activity there would be no way the Feds could trace that unless they went to manufacturer and got FFL holder to look through his individual records? And if a CHL holder bought a used gun from a FFL dealer there is even less chance of tracing the life history of that gun?? Do I understand?

They have to back track the history of the gun, first, by the serial #. If a firearm and serial is recovered in a crime, someone will immediately call the mfg (or mfg rep company) for the tracking history. The mfg will, typically, supply the distributor then the distributor will provide the retailer or shop where it was originally sold.

On the used gun, the gun had to come from somewhere if it's through an FFL. The FFL would have in their books where it came from, either a private individual or another FFL, and then who it was sold to. I have received a few letters from the ATF looking for a certain serial numbered firearm just for this purpose. The tracking trail went cold, and they are reaching out to FFL's to check their files for this serial #.

Some larger FFL's have gone digital (hence the Academy issue), and the serial numbers are stored into a data base that can quickly be accessed, I'm sure by whomever has access.

Wow this post turned into something special. I get it. It's bs when you can prove right there at the counter you made a silly mistake. Even ATF should be able to see what went on. It's common sense. When stuff like that happens to me I've found it's easier to say...well god doesn't want me to buy a pistole today and move along.

Sorry Snake Wrangler, to bad that didn't work on our taxes. Oops I made a mistake. Can't pay my taxes this month cause of the 30 day tax payment policy. Life was is to short sometimes. My biggest question is do you even want another gun like you already had after your 30 day ban? Goodluck... make sure you study for the test next time:) get a proper nights sleep. A lot yourself plenty of time to get there. Wear clean underwear and comfortable clothes. Wash your hands well the night before. Bring a moist towel with you and a bottle of water........