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Bees everywhere #6752980 05/03/17 02:52 AM
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I have been clearing some dead trees and brush on a property I have near wharton. My guys have now found 9 different groups. I would love to have a keeper come get them or i will have to kill them. Anybody want some bees?

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I would love to come get some but I couldn't do it til next week. If you can wait let me know.


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If Rancher doesn't get them and you have time, I may be able to get some interested beekeepers around Houston to help you out. If they arent Africanized, they are needed. If I was closer I'd get them.


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If they are just a large group not in a hive they will move along soon they are looking for a home.

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go to all means to not kill


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If they are just a large group not in a hive they will move along soon they are looking for a home.


Yep. If they are just hanging on branches they are transient.


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Bee #'s are way down and when bee's are gone we are too

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Bee #'s are way down and when bee's are gone we are too


Bee numbers are not way down. Numbers of people looking for a payday are WAY up. Hence the manufactured crises like global warming, ozone hole, and bee decline.

I'm 61 years old, my family has owned bees a large part of my life. I have never ever seen more honey bees than this year.


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Originally Posted By: therancher
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go to all means to not kill
Bee #'s are way down and when bee's are gone we are too


Bee numbers are not way down. Numbers of people looking for a payday are WAY up. Hence the manufactured crises like global warming, ozone hole, and bee decline.

I'm 61 years old, my family has owned bees a large part of my life. I have never ever seen more honey bees than this year.


Thank. You. Sir! I like bees. I like honey. I don't WANT to kill bees, but when they make a structure unusable, and there are no beekeepers to relocate them within a couple hours drive, they have to die. (See sig line below.)


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Bee numbers are not way down. Numbers of people looking for a payday are WAY up. Hence the manufactured crises like global warming, ozone hole, and bee decline.


Yes, it's all manufactured BS, or I guess now "alternative facts."



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Yep, Rancher needs to go talk with the part of the family that actually is keeping bees, "how it was" 15-20 years ago, "aint" like it is now..


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Gotta say after last year with bees making a hive in my wash room. I could care less for them . If you EVER, EVER have them making a new hive in/or around your house. Getm out quick, because it aint fun having them as guests. Believe me!!!!

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Yep, Rancher needs to go talk with the part of the family that actually is keeping bees, "how it was" 15-20 years ago, "aint" like it is now..


I AM that part of the family. Bee numbers went down with the drought. Now they are back in record numbers. Hence the complaints about them. That data posted was about "honey producing colonies". That has absolutely nothing to do with bee numbers. But explaining data to you is probably futile.


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My little dozer doesn't have a enclosed cab and I don't do brush pushing this time of year on account of the bee's. Already got into two hives this Spring. bang

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Yep, Rancher needs to go talk with the part of the family that actually is keeping bees, "how it was" 15-20 years ago, "aint" like it is now..


I AM that part of the family. Bee numbers went down with the drought. Now they are back in record numbers. Hence the complaints about them. That data posted was about "honey producing colonies". That has absolutely nothing to do with bee numbers. But explaining data to you is probably futile.


Bee numbers fell nationwide, drought has little to do with it other than regionally. The issues facing honey producing hives, also effect feral hives, that is why there is so much hope that feral bees can find a way to combat the newer problems by many beeks


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Honey bees are not native to this country. Europeans brought them over for the exact reason we are missing them.

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Honey bees are not native to this country. Europeans brought them over for the exact reason we are missing them.


Mic drop by the dude. cheers


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Yep, Rancher needs to go talk with the part of the family that actually is keeping bees, "how it was" 15-20 years ago, "aint" like it is now..


I AM that part of the family. Bee numbers went down with the drought. Now they are back in record numbers. Hence the complaints about them. That data posted was about "honey producing colonies". That has absolutely nothing to do with bee numbers. But explaining data to you is probably futile.


Bee numbers fell nationwide, drought has little to do with it other than regionally. The issues facing honey producing hives, also effect feral hives, that is why there is so much hope that feral bees can find a way to combat the newer problems by many beeks


Then the answer to all bee problems are in the Texas hill country, and evidently the cure is spreading toward the coast according to the OP.

In the hill country this year bees were WAY over carrying capacity. I posted about it earlier back in cold weather. Literally hundreds of bees in every deer feeder. Leave a corn sack, chicken feed sack or any source of grain open for more than 3 minutes and there would be bees swarming all over it.

I had an 80+ year old bee keeper call me a liar when I told him the above. So I videoed pouring corn into a bucket. Within 1.5 minutes bees were all over it. He apologized. Evidently grain dust is a substitute for pollen.

Bees were starving because their numbers were way over carrying capacity and it was that way on most of the hill country.

Two years of plentiful rain pushed bee populations to levels not seen by an octagenarian bee keeper. May not have been the drought. But someone is skewing the data. The bees don't lie.


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Honey bees are not native to this country. Europeans brought them over for the exact reason we are missing them.


Mic drop by the dude. cheers



You two simply don't understand!! We're all gonna starve to death if honeybees go extinct!!! We're less than a decade away from worldwide disaster don'tchaknow!!??

Sarcasm off.

So, how did plants get pollenated before we imported honeybees? I'll just sit back and wait on the chicken littles' answers. This should be good.


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Originally Posted By: therancher
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Honey bees are not native to this country. Europeans brought them over for the exact reason we are missing them.


Mic drop by the dude. cheers



You two simply don't understand!! We're all gonna starve to death if honeybees go extinct!!! We're less than a decade away from worldwide disaster don'tchaknow!!??

Sarcasm off.

So, how did plants get pollenated before we imported honeybees? I'll just sit back and wait on the chicken littles' answers. This should be good.


There were many more whore'ish dirty-leg plants back then.

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My father was a hobby beekeeper, which meant I was as well, not by choice though. It's a hobby that requires lots of work.

I thought this was an interesting read to better describe "bee issues" and "honeybee issues". The cause to be concerned is still there, just not so much with the "honeybee".

https://www.wired.com/2015/04/youre-worrying-wrong-bees/


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Honey bees are not native to this country. Europeans brought them over for the exact reason we are missing them.


Mic drop by the dude. cheers



You two simply don't understand!! We're all gonna starve to death if honeybees go extinct!!! We're less than a decade away from worldwide disaster don'tchaknow!!??

Sarcasm off.

So, how did plants get pollenated before we imported honeybees? I'll just sit back and wait on the chicken littles' answers. This should be good.


Same way alfalfa gets pollinated in the high plain deserts?


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I never did get "the birds and the bees" talk.


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Yep, Rancher needs to go talk with the part of the family that actually is keeping bees, "how it was" 15-20 years ago, "aint" like it is now..


I AM that part of the family. Bee numbers went down with the drought. Now they are back in record numbers. Hence the complaints about them. That data posted was about "honey producing colonies". That has absolutely nothing to do with bee numbers. But explaining data to you is probably futile.


Bee numbers fell nationwide, drought has little to do with it other than regionally. The issues facing honey producing hives, also effect feral hives, that is why there is so much hope that feral bees can find a way to combat the newer problems by many beeks


Then the answer to all bee problems are in the Texas hill country, and evidently the cure is spreading toward the coast according to the OP.

In the hill country this year bees were WAY over carrying capacity. I posted about it earlier back in cold weather. Literally hundreds of bees in every deer feeder. Leave a corn sack, chicken feed sack or any source of grain open for more than 3 minutes and there would be bees swarming all over it.

I had an 80+ year old bee keeper call me a liar when I told him the above. So I videoed pouring corn into a bucket. Within 1.5 minutes bees were all over it. He apologized. Evidently grain dust is a substitute for pollen.

Bees were starving because their numbers were way over carrying capacity and it was that way on most of the hill country.

Two years of plentiful rain pushed bee populations to levels not seen by an octagenarian bee keeper. May not have been the drought. But someone is skewing the data. The bees don't lie.


Rusty, then you already know that this time of year is "swarm season", when hives split 1 or more times, part of their drive to procreate. So seeing higher numbers in the 1st half of the year (Spring warm up) is not uncommon.

I remember your post about bee's on your corn, I didn't doubt what you said, but from the photo you posted, didn't look like a large amount of bees, more like your local hive doing what it had to.


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