to the OP, I hear that starting the first of next month a couple of guys from the bass section on tff will be guiding gerbil hunts, CHEAP!


might want to check in to that.

sapper, we think alike.


to the OP, what you proposed is not only silly but not feasible.

I can tell you from experience as I live this daily, you will never eliminate feral hogs, like cockroaches they are here and they are not leaving.
the best anyone can expect to do is to control the hog pop. meaning that having hunters is a big help but not the end all cure all. believe it or not it creates a huge liability for the property owner, are you willing to let complete strangers with ars and aks roam your yard at night looking for squirrels? the landowner is ultimately responsible for what happens on his/her land when they allow anyone access for any reason, hence a cost for insurance to cover liability. answer this, why should a landowner not be compensated for that which his land provides, same as strawberries/peaches/watermelons etc. the hogs are a resource/commodity and believe it or not it is not the landowner the sets pricing, it is you the hunter, how much will you pay for what you want?

I don't know what you do for a job but how bout we add a 15% tax to it, you know, just in case someone gets hurt from something you did or failed to do. fair? that is what you propose to landowners, so good for the goose and all that stuff. ehhh?


short of it is: hog hunting is a free market system, some give it away and some charge for hunting, the cost to pay is driven by what the hunter will fork over to enjoy what they want to do. with our sue happy country I do not blame any landowner for charging what the market will bear to recoup some of the losses that are inevitable either way.


in closing, atwoods has a sale on red ryders goin on, perhaps a good starting point.

Does that include County telling land owners all they can shoot is buck only ?

deer are owned by the state so no

i got this is bout charging for hog hunts...

Texas is definitely conflicted on this issue, not sure about other states. Hell, some guys catch, cut, and release. Bar hogs can have impressive cutters and garner big money for trophy hunters. This issue will play out in the next decade as population levels hit carrying capacity and damage becomes intolerable. Rather than fencing In the hogs, it will be ranchers and farmers will need to fence them OUT. Out West, it's a big no no to tell a man what he can or can't do on this property and this thread is evidence of that. Wild animals are just that exotic, invasive or not. It's a man's due diligence to protect his land from a known threat, not his neighbors' problem.

It's called "property rights" and "freedom"......

Works every time its tried....

Yes it is SnakeWrangler. We should not be in a hurry to give away our rights. The Government will take what they can. As for the OP he thought we missed his point, but I think most on here got it right. As a land owner I am selective as to the people allowed on the property. That is my right and I WILL exercise it.

Didn't see any thing bout hunters taking away landowners writes ... The thread i had bout landowners putting down hunters stepped on a few toes... It git taken down...
edit: why did they sailors thread get removed ?

All agree hogs are a problem, landowners especially then they charge a fee to have someone come in to kill a hog. That is their right without a doubt...it just does not sound right when considered.

Depends upon who you ask. I suspect the landowners think it sounds fine!

"The bottom line here is that, feral hogs cause not millions, but billions of dollars of damage to Texas agriculture each year. People that want to harbor these animals on their land for personal profit, need to be held responsible in some way for contributing to this huge problem."




I think landowners should have the right to charge what they want for hunting/access but I'm not buying hogs cause billions of dollars a year in damage in the state of Tx. Thats a "perceived" figure, not actual.

It's just odd, to hear lots of talk about a hog "problem", but when offered help, all of a sudden these folks with a "problem" want money for it. If you have a problem, but you want me to pay you to help clean up that problem, I'm unconvinced that you actually have a problem. It sounds like you have a resource, or a commodity.

+1

Speaking for myself, I prefer the problem I know verse the problem I don't know.

Of the estimated 4 to 5 million feral hogs in the United States, approximately 2 million call Texas home. Feral hogs can be found in approximately 230 of our 254 counties and cause an estimated $52 million of damage to Texas agricultural enterprises each year.

http://wildlife.tamu.edu/wildlifemanagement/feral-hog/

I would guess landowners make more than 52 million a year in hog hunts. Maybe it offsets each other.

To the OP

Make sure you do post a picture of a hog that it is wide enough to kill.

For those that dont catch the reference

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6608862/Re:_Post_your_last_weekend_buc#Post6608862

Hes just a troll. No more, no less

I'm still a relative new guy on this forum, so keep some of my opinions to myself in deference to those of you with multi-thousands of posts, but jeez marie there are some HSOs that can fly around.

Supply and demand. If people weren't willing to pay to hunt them, there would be no market. The OP should blame the hunters not the landowners.

Easy solution.
1) Don't pay to hunt hogs and discourage others from paying.
2) Tell your government representatives not to give landowners any subsidies related to hog damage.

If the land owner wants to charge you to hunt, so be it. He pays taxes and insurance. It's his property and we should respect that. Yes, hogs may be a problem, but so are irresponsible hunters.

Not many seem to factor that one in.....also, its been my experience that things for "free" are treated completely differently than things you have to pay for....and they attract very different types of people....I'll just leave it at that.....

I know you Aggies are pretty slow so let's make this simple.

Texas is not a welfare state. If you can't afford to hog hunt you have little to no experience doing so. Your not qualified to help with this problem. And neither are all you other jack wagons on this thread that want welfare hunts.

So free hunting of hogs would include giving strangers free run of 2 sections of brushy cattle country? When most successful hog hunters shoot hogs at night. Add to this as a rancher hogs really don't affect my business that badly. The holes they dig are impressive and they do eat some grass. They do also eat prickly pear and keep the rattler population down. However I am not over run with them yet. And I have friends that I know will respect my property, not leave gates open or dump trash, so the need to let any stranger out there is non existent. On the other hand, were I to set up feeders, keep corn in them, build shooting boxes, berms to stop bullits, and have to babysit them so they would only hunt where I want them to hunt I would expect to at least get my gas, time and corn money back so free is not in the cards.