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Re: Where do you buy your Hunting Dogs [Re: westtexaswatkins] #663971 04/30/09 09:19 AM
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Just stumbled on this thread and WOW, what a fun read. I have a few points to add, just for fun.
1- "me thinks" is one word and methinks you should use spellcheck or an online dictionary.
2- Methinks anyone can sell/breed a dog however they want if it is legal. Its a damn dog, it isn't going to college and it won't cure cancer.
3- Methinks you are a self-righteous person if selling a puppy because two mutts bumped uglies makes you angry.
4- Methinks testing dogs for hydroherpesyphylaids is funny. Thanks, I needed a laugh.
5- Methinks the phrase "high-end kennel" is a creative euphemism for "really expensive place that even the smartest dogs will poop and sleep in the same little cage." I am not sure I will have to check my OED on that one.
6- The 4 dogs I have owned in my life have taught me well.
A. Beagle, "Krinkle"- three years old and dead in backyard, I was an irresponsible dead dog owner and did not get a "dogtopsy." It did not die of neglect, I assure you of that.
B. Black lab, "Jake"- most recent pet. He was hit by a Suburban, broke all front teeth; tail cut off when steel door closed unexpectedly (I assume unexpectedly otherwise I methinks the dog would have moved his tail). He was the only possession other than a washer and dryer to survive an apartment fire. For some reason he became skittish after that. Go figure! He was thrown from back of an Isuzu Rodeo at 60+mph during a head-on collision. I went to the hospital, he went to my parents' house for the weekend. He once ate a 2 pound channel catfish alive (I knew he would fetch a bird, but a fish?). He didn't seem to have an upset stomach, but did appear confused afterwards. He could count to ten, I would old up my fingers and say "count" and he would bark the corresponding number of barks. He may have had 100 broken legs and many times his eyes must have been gouged out, OR my nieces and nephews were just real good at playing "Doggy Doctor" with ACE bandages He died at the vet's office due to injection of Ketamine and the other drug that which name escapes my me presently (Pento-barbitol???). He was just shy of 18 years old.
C. Poodle, "Oldie"- very apropos name as he was a "family member" before I was. I don't know what happened to him, but I hope it hurt real bad!
D. Mutt, "Honey"- was about 10 pounds and could out run a whippet. The perfect companion for a young boy, she could play fetch, run homemade "obstacle courses," and seemed even to like to be involved when all my friends and I were having a dirt clod fight. Died around 13 years old from being fed to much human food at Thanksgiving. And, no, I did not feed her any.
The hapless, worthless beagle was from a "high-end kennel" and I should have taken the dog back instead of burying her in the backyard. The others were bought at one of those Walmart/Target/Sonic Drive-Thru/Bubba-Gump/We-live-on-a-dirt-road-because-we-can't-afford-pavement/Humane Society type places. By the way... Humane Society is two lies in one.

westtexaswatkins, Do you have another "Jake"? If so, can you mail him to me for twelve bucks?

I think I am going to go use my desktop publisher to make a fine pedigree for the $2000 chocolate lab, err... field mouse, that just walked into my garage.

Addendum: If you have a $5000 lease, a $4000 blind, a $3000 gun, a $2000 dog, a $1000 rangefinder, a $500 pair of boots, a $300 Duracoat and a $100 box of ammo are you still a hunter????


Methinks not.


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Just stumbled on this thread and WOW, what a fun read. I have a few points to add, just for fun.
1- "me thinks" is one word and methinks you should use spellcheck or an online dictionary.
2- Methinks anyone can sell/breed a dog however they want if it is legal. Its a damn dog, it isn't going to college and it won't cure cancer.
3- Methinks you are a self-righteous person if selling a puppy because two mutts bumped uglies makes you angry.
4- Methinks testing dogs for hydroherpesyphylaids is funny. Thanks, I needed a laugh.
5- Methinks the phrase "high-end kennel" is a creative euphemism for "really expensive place that even the smartest dogs will poop and sleep in the same little cage." I am not sure I will have to check my OED on that one.
6- The 4 dogs I have owned in my life have taught me well.
A. Beagle, "Krinkle"- three years old and dead in backyard, I was an irresponsible dead dog owner and did not get a "dogtopsy." It did not die of neglect, I assure you of that.
B. Black lab, "Jake"- most recent pet. He was hit by a Suburban, broke all front teeth; tail cut off when steel door closed unexpectedly (I assume unexpectedly otherwise I methinks the dog would have moved his tail). He was the only possession other than a washer and dryer to survive an apartment fire. For some reason he became skittish after that. Go figure! He was thrown from back of an Isuzu Rodeo at 60+mph during a head-on collision. I went to the hospital, he went to my parents' house for the weekend. He once ate a 2 pound channel catfish alive (I knew he would fetch a bird, but a fish?). He didn't seem to have an upset stomach, but did appear confused afterwards. He could count to ten, I would old up my fingers and say "count" and he would bark the corresponding number of barks. He may have had 100 broken legs and many times his eyes must have been gouged out, OR my nieces and nephews were just real good at playing "Doggy Doctor" with ACE bandages He died at the vet's office due to injection of Ketamine and the other drug that which name escapes my me presently (Pento-barbitol???). He was just shy of 18 years old.
C. Poodle, "Oldie"- very apropos name as he was a "family member" before I was. I don't know what happened to him, but I hope it hurt real bad!
D. Mutt, "Honey"- was about 10 pounds and could out run a whippet. The perfect companion for a young boy, she could play fetch, run homemade "obstacle courses," and seemed even to like to be involved when all my friends and I were having a dirt clod fight. Died around 13 years old from being fed to much human food at Thanksgiving. And, no, I did not feed her any.
The hapless, worthless beagle was from a "high-end kennel" and I should have taken the dog back instead of burying her in the backyard. The others were bought at one of those Walmart/Target/Sonic Drive-Thru/Bubba-Gump/We-live-on-a-dirt-road-because-we-can't-afford-pavement/Humane Society type places. By the way... Humane Society is two lies in one.

westtexaswatkins, Do you have another "Jake"? If so, can you mail him to me for twelve bucks?

I think I am going to go use my desktop publisher to make a fine pedigree for the $2000 chocolate lab, err... field mouse, that just walked into my garage.

Addendum: If you have a $5000 lease, a $4000 blind, a $3000 gun, a $2000 dog, a $1000 rangefinder, a $500 pair of boots, a $300 Duracoat and a $100 box of ammo are you still a hunter????


Methinks not.




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Just stumbled on this thread and WOW, what a fun read. I have a few points to add, just for fun.
1- "me thinks" is one word and methinks you should use spellcheck or an online dictionary.
2- Methinks anyone can sell/breed a dog however they want if it is legal. Its a damn dog, it isn't going to college and it won't cure cancer.
3- Methinks you are a self-righteous person if selling a puppy because two mutts bumped uglies makes you angry.
4- Methinks testing dogs for hydroherpesyphylaids is funny. Thanks, I needed a laugh.
5- Methinks the phrase "high-end kennel" is a creative euphemism for "really expensive place that even the smartest dogs will poop and sleep in the same little cage." I am not sure I will have to check my OED on that one.
6- The 4 dogs I have owned in my life have taught me well.
A. Beagle, "Krinkle"- three years old and dead in backyard, I was an irresponsible dead dog owner and did not get a "dogtopsy." It did not die of neglect, I assure you of that.
B. Black lab, "Jake"- most recent pet. He was hit by a Suburban, broke all front teeth; tail cut off when steel door closed unexpectedly (I assume unexpectedly otherwise I methinks the dog would have moved his tail). He was the only possession other than a washer and dryer to survive an apartment fire. For some reason he became skittish after that. Go figure! He was thrown from back of an Isuzu Rodeo at 60+mph during a head-on collision. I went to the hospital, he went to my parents' house for the weekend. He once ate a 2 pound channel catfish alive (I knew he would fetch a bird, but a fish?). He didn't seem to have an upset stomach, but did appear confused afterwards. He could count to ten, I would old up my fingers and say "count" and he would bark the corresponding number of barks. He may have had 100 broken legs and many times his eyes must have been gouged out, OR my nieces and nephews were just real good at playing "Doggy Doctor" with ACE bandages He died at the vet's office due to injection of Ketamine and the other drug that which name escapes my me presently (Pento-barbitol???). He was just shy of 18 years old.
C. Poodle, "Oldie"- very apropos name as he was a "family member" before I was. I don't know what happened to him, but I hope it hurt real bad!
D. Mutt, "Honey"- was about 10 pounds and could out run a whippet. The perfect companion for a young boy, she could play fetch, run homemade "obstacle courses," and seemed even to like to be involved when all my friends and I were having a dirt clod fight. Died around 13 years old from being fed to much human food at Thanksgiving. And, no, I did not feed her any.
The hapless, worthless beagle was from a "high-end kennel" and I should have taken the dog back instead of burying her in the backyard. The others were bought at one of those Walmart/Target/Sonic Drive-Thru/Bubba-Gump/We-live-on-a-dirt-road-because-we-can't-afford-pavement/Humane Society type places. By the way... Humane Society is two lies in one.

westtexaswatkins, Do you have another "Jake"? If so, can you mail him to me for twelve bucks?

I think I am going to go use my desktop publisher to make a fine pedigree for the $2000 chocolate lab, err... field mouse, that just walked into my garage.

Addendum: If you have a $5000 lease, a $4000 blind, a $3000 gun, a $2000 dog, a $1000 rangefinder, a $500 pair of boots, a $300 Duracoat and a $100 box of ammo are you still a hunter????


Methinks not.




You remind me of this guy that I know that thinks he is really witty. He is not.


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one of the best roping /all around horses I had was a mutt mustang.... Unfortunetly it took 25 other horse to find him when I could of spent little more upfront and 15x less down the road and brought a proven background right off the bat.

Lost 8 first calf heifers one year, bought a fine looking bull at the sell barn..... unfortently his long dong produced extra large calves that the heifers couldn't birth... got a pedigreed bull next year with a history of low birth weights...... problem solved again if I would thought just a little more about genetics and paid a little more up front I would of save lots of $$K's

Yes a dog is a dog and a horse is a horse and a bull a bull.... but they aren't all created equal..just like humans

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Just stumbled on this thread and WOW, what a fun read. I have a few points to add, just for fun.
1- "me thinks" is one word and methinks you should use spellcheck or an online dictionary.
2- Methinks anyone can sell/breed a dog however they want if it is legal. Its a damn dog, it isn't going to college and it won't cure cancer.
3- Methinks you are a self-righteous person if selling a puppy because two mutts bumped uglies makes you angry.
4- Methinks testing dogs for hydroherpesyphylaids is funny. Thanks, I needed a laugh.
5- Methinks the phrase "high-end kennel" is a creative euphemism for "really expensive place that even the smartest dogs will poop and sleep in the same little cage." I am not sure I will have to check my OED on that one.
6- The 4 dogs I have owned in my life have taught me well.
A. Beagle, "Krinkle"- three years old and dead in backyard, I was an irresponsible dead dog owner and did not get a "dogtopsy." It did not die of neglect, I assure you of that.
B. Black lab, "Jake"- most recent pet. He was hit by a Suburban, broke all front teeth; tail cut off when steel door closed unexpectedly (I assume unexpectedly otherwise I methinks the dog would have moved his tail). He was the only possession other than a washer and dryer to survive an apartment fire. For some reason he became skittish after that. Go figure! He was thrown from back of an Isuzu Rodeo at 60+mph during a head-on collision. I went to the hospital, he went to my parents' house for the weekend. He once ate a 2 pound channel catfish alive (I knew he would fetch a bird, but a fish?). He didn't seem to have an upset stomach, but did appear confused afterwards. He could count to ten, I would old up my fingers and say "count" and he would bark the corresponding number of barks. He may have had 100 broken legs and many times his eyes must have been gouged out, OR my nieces and nephews were just real good at playing "Doggy Doctor" with ACE bandages He died at the vet's office due to injection of Ketamine and the other drug that which name escapes my me presently (Pento-barbitol???). He was just shy of 18 years old.
C. Poodle, "Oldie"- very apropos name as he was a "family member" before I was. I don't know what happened to him, but I hope it hurt real bad!
D. Mutt, "Honey"- was about 10 pounds and could out run a whippet. The perfect companion for a young boy, she could play fetch, run homemade "obstacle courses," and seemed even to like to be involved when all my friends and I were having a dirt clod fight. Died around 13 years old from being fed to much human food at Thanksgiving. And, no, I did not feed her any.
The hapless, worthless beagle was from a "high-end kennel" and I should have taken the dog back instead of burying her in the backyard. The others were bought at one of those Walmart/Target/Sonic Drive-Thru/Bubba-Gump/We-live-on-a-dirt-road-because-we-can't-afford-pavement/Humane Society type places. By the way... Humane Society is two lies in one.

westtexaswatkins, Do you have another "Jake"? If so, can you mail him to me for twelve bucks?

I think I am going to go use my desktop publisher to make a fine pedigree for the $2000 chocolate lab, err... field mouse, that just walked into my garage.

Addendum: If you have a $5000 lease, a $4000 blind, a $3000 gun, a $2000 dog, a $1000 rangefinder, a $500 pair of boots, a $300 Duracoat and a $100 box of ammo are you still a hunter????


Methinks not.




You remind me of this guy that I know that thinks he is really witty. He is not.




The feeling is reciprocated. Funny, huh?


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Hey Grey, welcome to the thread, you missed some good times earlier. Thanks for bringing it back to life.


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oo what a thread... so much humunization of dogs here its unreal...... i agree with u there grey. i have yet to see my dogs suffer from some crazy health problem that couldve been avoided if id paid a few grand to get em checked for it... i mean unless the age of 12 and 13 is young for labs.


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I consider myself to be a very open minded individual, my employment insists on it, but I will never swallow for one second that a hunting dog NEEDS to cost that much money. It reminds me of the Bob Lee Swagger wannabes that say that I have to have H&K magazines in my M4. Sorry, I will stick with my issued ones. They cost about $10, not $60. Sheesh.


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I think you may have missed the point of the tread, but thats OK



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from what i could see it was all about health issues developing in "back yard dogs" what a load of B.S.


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It depends on what you think the thread was about. Originally, the question was asked simply where do you buy your dogs. Secondarily, some people were upset (or however they felt) that people would buy from places other than "high-end kennels." Tertiarily (sorry, I had to), the thread was about the reasoning behind the $1500 dogs or the lack thereof. If I missed something, I am all ears.


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It depends on what you think the thread was about. Originally, the question was asked simply where do you buy your dogs. Secondarily, some people were upset (or however they felt) that people would buy from places other than "high-end kennels." Tertiarily (sorry, I had to), the thread was about the reasoning behind the $1500 dogs or the lack thereof. If I missed something, I am all ears.




I don't think it was about the cost so much as being from a responseable breeder.... no different then horses.. you know how many horses have been line bred with traits that are scarey bad...lots just because a horse won one race or one big show doesn't me he is fit to breed..

Just like buying a car or truck do you really want to buy a car or truck that has the worst consumer rating out there and take the cahnce. I agree that alot of animals are getting way over priced for what they are... but a least buy from someone that knows what they are selling you



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It depends on what you think the thread was about. Originally, the question was asked simply where do you buy your dogs. Secondarily, some people were upset (or however they felt) that people would buy from places other than "high-end kennels." Tertiarily (sorry, I had to), the thread was about the reasoning behind the $1500 dogs or the lack thereof. If I missed something, I am all ears.




I don't think it was about the cost so much as being from a responseable breeder.... no different then horses.. you know how many horses have been line bred with traits that are scarey bad...lots just because a horse won one race or one big show doesn't me he is fit to breed..

Just like buying a car or truck do you really want to buy a car or truck that has the worst consumer rating out there and take the cahnce. I agree that alot of animals are getting way over priced for what they are... but a least buy from someone that knows what they are selling you




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That was the exact point I covered in items 2 and 3 of my original post in this thread. I have no issues with what one does for a living, but please do not pass off what some of the folks here are doing as "responsible." By the same token I could make the argument that letting a child ride a bike without wearing full-body hockey pads, an orange strobe light and a siren is irresponsible.


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gotta love the analogies!!!!!! +1 grey.


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That was the exact point I covered in items 2 and 3 of my original post in this thread. I have no issues with what one does for a living, but please do not pass off what some of the folks here are doing as "responsible." By the same token I could make the argument that letting a child ride a bike without wearing full-body hockey pads, an orange strobe light and a siren is irresponsible.




Or leaving you kid in the car on a 100 degree day why you got into walmart hopefully your more responsable then that... goes both ways.. I agree there are a few over the top people on the subject...but to an extent you have to agree with them...why wouldn't you want a little history on your animal??? Whould you go buy a baby tiger and not understand why when they grow up they just ate the niebhors kid...

free country(as of today) you can do as you wish... I hope you don't also get caught up shooting culls because they have bad genes and you don't want them breeding... personally I could care less where anyone gets there dog or how much they pay.... But i know any animal i going to have as part of my family for the long term I'm going to use every precaution to make sure it has the ability to live a long life with very few complications... IMO



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I paid $300 for my dog, and my dogs parents, grandparents and so on where all hips, elbows, and eyes checked. I wouldn't say she has the best pedigree, but it is sufficient enough to prove to me she should have good health and is trainable. My buddy paid $250 for his and her pedigree is awesome. Both of our puppies where supposed to sell for a higher price. His dog is awesome and my dog is on here way to becoming a great dog. Also I know a reputable breeder who has all his dogs checked for all the test above and all test where great, well he sold a pup, and guess what (hip problems). It just proves to you , that even with test you can have problems. That being said, if you do your homework and find a breeder that has done thered you are far less likely to have serious medical problems, and have a dog that is trainable to your standards. Just my .02. I promise you I will never pay $1000 for a dog. I can get a dog with close to the same pedigree, for far less. It might take more time, a different breeder, but I guarantee it will come along.


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I paid $300 for my dog, and my dogs parents, grandparents and so on where all hips, elbows, and eyes checked. I wouldn't say she has the best pedigree, but it is sufficient enough to prove to me she should have good health and is trainable. My buddy paid $250 for his and her pedigree is awesome. Both of our puppies where supposed to sell for a higher price. His dog is awesome and my dog is on here way to becoming a great dog. Also I know a reputable breeder who has all his dogs checked for all the test above and all test where great, well he sold a pup, and guess what (hip problems). It just proves to you , that even with test you can have problems. That being said, if you do your homework and find a breeder that has done thered you are far less likely to have serious medical problems, and have a dog that is trainable to your standards. Just my .02. I promise you I will never pay $1000 for a dog. I can get a dog with close to the same pedigree, for far less. It might take more time, a different breeder, but I guarantee it will come along.



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No pup should cost $1500.00 that is insane even for the best blood in the business. However, there are a large amount of cull dogs and dogs with issues being put out by folks that don't take an interest in improving a breed. Some coon dogs go for about $350 a pup, that would make it $450 to your door. These are the very best blood lines that the Redbone breed has to offer though, I mean every pup is a lay up tree dog. This comes from careful breeding of healthy dogs that have those traits and natural instincts.

So, yeah no way in hell would I pay $1500.00 for a pup. But I am willing to pay a little cash for a dog that is predisposed to track well and tree hard. This kind of blood line comes from literally 20yrs or so of good selective breeding.

Don't get me wrong, some "backyard pups" put high dollar dogs to shame, but not consistently. Anyhow, I have said my piece, and I am coming from the stand point of an active hunter and one who is active in wanting to better a breed of dog.


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