Isn't that because you are a licensed breeder??

I don't think the intention was there to educate you fully. You can do the rest of the legwork on your own if you choose.

If you smoke a cite tag required exotic(w/o required cite tag) and post it on this forum. It will be moved to the law enforcement section. How they handle it is up to them. CITE tag animals (without cite tag)are not something you want in your procession when federal game wardens come knocking

No. I'm not a "licensed breeder" of anything. It is legal to live buy or sell cites animals and keep them on your ranch for breeding purposes without a license. It is NOT legal to kill them without permits (or transport them across state lines) regardless of your relationship to the animal.

I think its that CITES is an international treaty administered by the Feds not TPW, TPW only addresses whether you have landowner permission if on someone else's property or whether its game animal/feral. CITES addresses whether there's been a census and whether a tag has been issued by the Feds for animals considered endangered/vulnerable. My understanding is that even the landowner who owns the animal commits a felony if he kills the animal without a CITES tag. So the only real answer is to know what the animal is and whether its covered by CITES before you pull the trigger

That's mostly true. However, a Texas state game warden is the enforcement wing for fed laws as well. Migratory game bird laws are federal laws but the state GW is the enforcer. No doubt fed GW's can/will enforce as well, but you're more likely to be dealt with by state GW.

I'd rather deal with tan then green.

Tan= Texas screened and vetted aka like minded(majority)
Green= Who knows but they don't play or cut slack (majority)

Laymens term's

Tan- licenses, cooler(measure smallest fish), life jackets, fire extinguisher, dude please sign back of license, y'all have a good day and be careful
Green- licenses, cooler(measure every fish), life jackets, fire extinguisher, check every compartment in boat, check every shell, check plug, write or threaten ticket for commingling, check boat exhaust to EPA standards, then radio's partner at the dock in plain clothes who then offers you money for your fish or ducks.

I will say NF guys are pretty cool, but them coastie's down south bring a snack you will be there a while

If I see a stray exotic anything I'm not going to shoot it, fact is I know it belongs to somebody. Several years ago we had two Buffalo Bull's wander on to the ranch. Two phone calls and I found out who the owner was.

That is the neighborly thing to do. Wish it was a more common MO.

Meh nevermind

this tis a good place for a as pappy say's but i'd get ed for me use of bad english...

Not knowing the law is not a defense.

Why are they allowed over here then.... kinda dumb

Because they've been wiped out in their native lands. Preservation of species could be considered quite noble.

SQSS

A bunch of wildebeests escaped near my land a few years back and I think all of them got smoked.

They on there? In case I catch a straggler or 2?

Because a market for the animals guarantees their survival. Several species including pere David (reduced to 11 animals at one time), addax, scimitar oryx, Arabian oryx and others are thriving today because American ranchers recognized the value of protecting and raising them. Zoos and preserves don't have the resources to protect genetic diversity, so those animals owe their very survival to the free market.

Wildebeest are fair game. Now, there are restrictions on ear tagged animals. But if they aren't marked they're fair game.

Agree 100% but do it over there... a lot of safe HF places over there... we have our own to worry about

What are our endangered species that would be occupying the ranches here that are now being used to save foreign endangered species?

And why would you want to limit business ops for others?

Ocelot, Jaguarondi, Louisiana black bear, GC Warbler, Black footed ferret, or are we only talking about things that make money?

My point is why try to save something here that figure out a way to save it there... and concentrate on our own native species need be endangered or not... there is plenty of business in WT deer alone... the only reason there is a business for exotics in mainly because they are allowed over here... which in right is fine I don't knock anyone making a dollar legally but that animal needs to be eliminated if escapes or at least not have this type of punishment for someone OUTSIDE the property shooting one.

"Ocelot, Jaguarondi, Louisiana black bear, GC Warbler, Black footed ferret, or are we only talking about things that make money?

My point is why try to save something here that figure out a way to save it there... and concentrate on our own native species need be endangered or not... there is plenty of business in WT deer alone... the only reason there is a business for exotics in mainly because they are allowed over here... which in right is fine I don't knock anyone making a dollar legally but that animal needs to be eliminated if escapes or at least not have this type of punishment for someone OUTSIDE the property shooting one."


First, none of the species you mentioned are displaced or harmed by raising the other endangered species for profit. Figure a way to make a profit on our native species and they will be protected by ranchers who want to take a risk for profit.

Second, the same penalties are in place for those species you mentioned if you shoot them after they escape my ranch. IMO it's always better if the hunter knows and respects the laws that protect endangered species. To me, the responsibility should always be on the person pulling the trigger.

I agree if the animal can be identified. But some exotics need to be shot. Massive axis populations have taken over the habitat of white tail in some areas. They have year round value to land owners, but as free range, I do not much care for them.

A lot of something about nothing

Fed wardens don't interact or play well with others