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 Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: therancher]
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11/01/16 12:02 AM
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therancher
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What you folks are ignoring is the fact that public land is always going to be subject to public opinion. At some point public opinion will determine that "their" land shouldn't be used to allow killing Bambi and his friends.
Private property rights trump public opinion. And hopefully will for generations to come.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: SouthWestIron]
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11/01/16 12:03 AM
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Not to Hijack the thread, but i just joined. Thanks MobettaHuntR I'm a Big supporter. I've met Land, he is a good guy. Something's I don't agree with but I agree with overall goal. I'm pretty conservation org critical, infact a bunch I can't stand. Its a bit of a quagmire so do your due diligence. It's actually funny you posted that, one of the reason I looked into them. Video actually peaked my interest, did a lot of research and settled on legit. BHA is obviously treating to someone that has special interest the the people's land become private. Did you caught the last part on the federal land grab? Think about that for a second, especially on the republican in Montana... now what is BHA mission statement? Now I wonder who made that professional video...probably the same people that want control of federal lands and minerals... just something to think about
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: SouthWestIron]
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11/01/16 12:11 AM
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therancher
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Not to Hijack the thread, but i just joined. Thanks MobettaHuntR I'm a Big supporter. I've met Land, he is a good guy. Something's I don't agree with but I agree with overall goal. I'm pretty conservation org critical, infact a bunch I can't stand. Its a bit of a quagmire so do your due diligence. Oh I think he's done his "due diligence". Based on his comments he's all in on the socialist idea of the govt providing things the private sector should be and could provide. Ida never thunk it before yesterday.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: therancher]
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11/01/16 12:34 AM
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What you folks are ignoring is the fact that public land is always going to be subject to public opinion. At some point public opinion will determine that "their" land shouldn't be used to allow killing Bambi and his friends.
Private property rights trump public opinion. And hopefully will for generations to come. That's a great point unfortunately for you wildlife is funded by sportsman. The self imposed Pittman Roberson tax is actually very eye opening to people when they find out how much sportsmen foot the bill on federal lands but also the amount of conservation efforts and money we spend. When it's compared to what hikers, and all the non hunting use...people get more respect for the hunters. Thankful we have more hunters then just arrogant Texans that think only those with deep tap rooted mail box money should be able to hunt. Fact is hunting is actually turning more positive as more people show the forest to plate part of it. Ironically uncle ted's big deal, unfortunately he wasn't perceived like Jim Shockey, Steven Rinlea, Cameron Hanes, Randy newberg, etc. those people general public respond very positive too You keep being an arrogant Texan, and I'll keep preaching how we hunters fund wildlife, and public lands. I'll also show people that I do more then just stick a head on the wall, I eat awesome venison that's organic and hormone free. I'll keep showing the other side how we lead the way in conservation and how our dollars provide them with free use of public lands. The irony is public land hunting is what's saving hunting not dumbeldor/gandoluf gaurding a corn feeder.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 12:44 AM
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therancher
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What you folks are ignoring is the fact that public land is always going to be subject to public opinion. At some point public opinion will determine that "their" land shouldn't be used to allow killing Bambi and his friends.
Private property rights trump public opinion. And hopefully will for generations to come. That's a great point unfortunately for you wildlife is funded by sportsman. The self imposed Pittman Roberson tax is actually very eye opening to people when they find out how much sportsmen foot the bill on federal lands but also the amount of conservation efforts and money we spend. When it's compared to what hikers, and all the non hunting use...people get more respect for the hunters. Thankful we have more hunters then just arrogant Texans that think only those with deep tap rooted mail box money should be able to hunt. Fact is hunting is actually turning more positive as more people show the forest to plate part of it. Ironically uncle ted's big deal, unfortunately he wasn't perceived like Jim Shockey, Steven Rinlea, Cameron Hanes, Randy newberg, etc. those people general public respond very positive too You keep being an arrogant Texan, and I'll keep preaching how we hunters fund wildlife, and public lands. I'll also show people that I do more then just stick a head on the wall, I eat awesome venison that's organic and hormone free. I'll keep showing the other side how we lead the way in conservation and how our dollars provide them with free use of public lands. The irony is public land hunting is what's saving hunting not dumbeldor/gandoluf gaurding a corn feeder. There is more private money spent in Texas each year on habitat and wildlife conservation than PR provides. And it gives conservation and public hunting ops much more bang for the buck. All you got is to call me arrogant, I'm ok with that. Just noting that you have nothing to counter my post. The public will control "their" land someday, and private land will be all that's left. My grandkids will get rich.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: therancher]
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11/01/16 01:13 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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What you folks are ignoring is the fact that public land is always going to be subject to public opinion. At some point public opinion will determine that "their" land shouldn't be used to allow killing Bambi and his friends.
Private property rights trump public opinion. And hopefully will for generations to come. That's a great point unfortunately for you wildlife is funded by sportsman. The self imposed Pittman Roberson tax is actually very eye opening to people when they find out how much sportsmen foot the bill on federal lands but also the amount of conservation efforts and money we spend. When it's compared to what hikers, and all the non hunting use...people get more respect for the hunters. Thankful we have more hunters then just arrogant Texans that think only those with deep tap rooted mail box money should be able to hunt. Fact is hunting is actually turning more positive as more people show the forest to plate part of it. Ironically uncle ted's big deal, unfortunately he wasn't perceived like Jim Shockey, Steven Rinlea, Cameron Hanes, Randy newberg, etc. those people general public respond very positive too You keep being an arrogant Texan, and I'll keep preaching how we hunters fund wildlife, and public lands. I'll also show people that I do more then just stick a head on the wall, I eat awesome venison that's organic and hormone free. I'll keep showing the other side how we lead the way in conservation and how our dollars provide them with free use of public lands. The irony is public land hunting is what's saving hunting not dumbeldor/gandoluf gaurding a corn feeder. There is more private money spent in Texas each year on habitat and wildlife conservation than PR provides. And it gives conservation and public hunting ops much more bang for the buck. All you got is to call me arrogant, I'm ok with that. Just noting that you have nothing to counter my post. The public will control "their" land someday, and private land will be all that's left. My grandkids will get rich. I was being polite until the solicaist comment. It's apparent you can't have a civil and intelligent conversation any more. You're right Texas does spend over a billion a year unfortunately the general public doesn't care because it does them no good nor can they actually use it. Public land is different its public Just like Texas state parks being managed by sportsmen licenses......
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/01/16 01:37 AM
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therancher
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What you folks are ignoring is the fact that public land is always going to be subject to public opinion. At some point public opinion will determine that "their" land shouldn't be used to allow killing Bambi and his friends.
Private property rights trump public opinion. And hopefully will for generations to come. That's a great point unfortunately for you wildlife is funded by sportsman. The self imposed Pittman Roberson tax is actually very eye opening to people when they find out how much sportsmen foot the bill on federal lands but also the amount of conservation efforts and money we spend. When it's compared to what hikers, and all the non hunting use...people get more respect for the hunters. Thankful we have more hunters then just arrogant Texans that think only those with deep tap rooted mail box money should be able to hunt. Fact is hunting is actually turning more positive as more people show the forest to plate part of it. Ironically uncle ted's big deal, unfortunately he wasn't perceived like Jim Shockey, Steven Rinlea, Cameron Hanes, Randy newberg, etc. those people general public respond very positive too You keep being an arrogant Texan, and I'll keep preaching how we hunters fund wildlife, and public lands. I'll also show people that I do more then just stick a head on the wall, I eat awesome venison that's organic and hormone free. I'll keep showing the other side how we lead the way in conservation and how our dollars provide them with free use of public lands. The irony is public land hunting is what's saving hunting not dumbeldor/gandoluf gaurding a corn feeder. There is more private money spent in Texas each year on habitat and wildlife conservation than PR provides. And it gives conservation and public hunting ops much more bang for the buck. All you got is to call me arrogant, I'm ok with that. Just noting that you have nothing to counter my post. The public will control "their" land someday, and private land will be all that's left. My grandkids will get rich. I was being polite until the solicaist comment. It's apparent you can't have a civil and intelligent conversation any more. You're right Texas does spend over a billion a year unfortunately the general public doesn't care because it does them no good nor can they actually use it. Public land is different its public Just like Texas state parks being managed by sportsmen licenses...... Not intelligent, yet as per you, I'm right. And what you continue to ignore is the fact that the public uses my property for hunting every week of the year. If wanting the govt to violate the constitution to provide public hunting land in a futile attempt to supply "equal opportunity for unequal effort" isn't socialist at it's core, then websters got it wrong.
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 Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 02:07 AM
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/01/16 02:10 AM
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FWIW, I don't use the term "socialism" lightly. I do however use it when warranted. I'm not sure where folks get that I'm wrong about it. It's plain in the definition.
so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
If it feels nasty don't blame me. And for your own personal benefit, it would be wise to embrace it.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 02:24 AM
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I am just simplied amazed yall are still arguing with our own Rosa Parks like she has a clue... Rancher and BoBo finish this out before Velcro Slippers jumps back in 
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: SniperRAB]
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11/01/16 02:42 AM
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I am just simplied amazed yall are still arguing with our own Rosa Parks like she has a clue... Rancher and BoBo finish this out before Velcro Slippers jumps back in Careful goat dog man. I won't be responsible for collateral damage... 
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: SniperRAB]
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11/01/16 02:58 AM
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I am just simplied amazed yall are still arguing with our own Rosa Parks like she has a clue... Rancher and BoBo finish this out before Velcro Slippers jumps back in You are the most transparent, relentless, straight-up troll on this forum. By a long shot. Not even a pretense of being anything else anymore.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 08:18 AM
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This sounds like normal conversation over a campfire in S. Texas where we argue over what a cull should be... The landowner always wins in the end but we always try to change his mind in the throws of whiskey. 
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 12:13 PM
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I am just simplied amazed yall are still arguing with our own Rosa Parks like she has a clue... Rancher and BoBo finish this out before Velcro Slippers jumps back in 
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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Ive read the whole thread, I maybe be really slow or sumthin.
So, I buy a piece of property that of course is for sale, doesn't matter who the previous owner is or who is selling it.
After I take possession I don't want folks on or using my property for any reason,,, trespassing on property I bought.
I'm the bad guy?
Sounds Lake Diversion ish or a typical sale in east Tx.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: Rustler]
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11/01/16 03:26 PM
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therancher
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Ive read the whole thread, I maybe be really slow or sumthin.
So, I buy a piece of property that of course is for sale, doesn't matter who the previous owner is or who is selling it.
After I take possession I don't want folks on or using my property for any reason,,, trespassing on property I bought.
I'm the bad guy?
Sounds Lake Diversion ish or a typical sale in east Tx. Well, to people who believe in entitlement mentality and believe that you as the new landowner should also realize that gubmint cheese is what makes America great... Yes, you should still allow John Q. Public to traverse your property to have the easiest access to his gubmint cheese. In effect, because you want to exercise your personal property rights you are the bad guy to the entitled and their supporters. You would be the good guy to me. Pretty certain that's not much consolation tho.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: therancher]
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11/01/16 03:27 PM
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Ive read the whole thread, I maybe be really slow or sumthin.
So, I buy a piece of property that of course is for sale, doesn't matter who the previous owner is or who is selling it.
After I take possession I don't want folks on or using my property for any reason,,, trespassing on property I bought.
I'm the bad guy?
Sounds Lake Diversion ish or a typical sale in east Tx. Well, to people who believe in entitlement mentality and believe that you as the new landowner should also realize that gubmint cheese is what makes America great... Yes, you should still allow John Q. Public to traverse your property to have the easiest access to his gubmint cheese. In effect, because you want to exercise your personal property rights you are the bad guy to the entitled and their supporters. You would be the good guy to me. Pretty certain that's not much consolation tho. I don't see anyone saying otherwise on this thread. The back and forth was on another topic.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: ndhunter]
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I had a revelation from reading this thread. That revelation is that my hardheadedness and ability to self implode proving I am right must be a genetic disorder passed on from one generation to the next. They say recognizing is the first step to change, haha this is me recognizing.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 04:08 PM
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I had a revelation from reading this thread. That revelation is that my hardheadedness and ability to self implode proving I am right must be a genetic disorder passed on from one generation to the next. They say recognizing is the first step to change, haha this is me recognizing. I wouldn't waste a lot of time on changing. Being right ain't all that bad.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: Rustler]
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Ive read the whole thread, I maybe be really slow or sumthin.
So, I buy a piece of property that of course is for sale, doesn't matter who the previous owner is or who is selling it.
After I take possession I don't want folks on or using my property for any reason,,, trespassing on property I bought.
I'm the bad guy?
Sounds Lake Diversion ish or a typical sale in east Tx. I will go back to my original statement... His Money His Land His Rules
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: therancher]
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I had a revelation from reading this thread. That revelation is that my hardheadedness and ability to self implode proving I am right must be a genetic disorder passed on from one generation to the next. They say recognizing is the first step to change, haha this is me recognizing. . Two of the best lines I've ever read on this forum. 
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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I had a revelation from reading this thread. That revelation is that my hardheadedness and ability to self implode proving I am right must be a genetic disorder passed on from one generation to the next. They say recognizing is the first step to change, haha this is me recognizing. . Two of the best lines I've ever read on this forum. Here's another one then. Let me know how changing your genetics works out for ya.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
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11/01/16 04:21 PM
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therancher
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Ive read the whole thread, I maybe be really slow or sumthin.
So, I buy a piece of property that of course is for sale, doesn't matter who the previous owner is or who is selling it.
After I take possession I don't want folks on or using my property for any reason,,, trespassing on property I bought.
I'm the bad guy?
Sounds Lake Diversion ish or a typical sale in east Tx. I will go back to my original statement... His Money His Land His Rules I never believed you were big on entitlements. Always knew Mrs Parks was.
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Re: Texas Billionaires Taking Idaho Private
[Re: therancher]
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11/01/16 04:35 PM
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Ive read the whole thread, I maybe be really slow or sumthin.
So, I buy a piece of property that of course is for sale, doesn't matter who the previous owner is or who is selling it.
After I take possession I don't want folks on or using my property for any reason,,, trespassing on property I bought.
I'm the bad guy?
Sounds Lake Diversion ish or a typical sale in east Tx. I will go back to my original statement... His Money His Land His Rules I never believed you were big on entitlements. Always knew Mrs Parks was. He is not, irony of the situation is you and NP are more alike then not. Both so set in your ideology you have no issue screwing the other 97% of hunters that don't hunt same way or have same resources. Luckily you're not the next generation that will be fighting for our rights and the continuous delivery and intergration of our culture into main stream populations that don't hunt.
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