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Re: Why Would You Want To "Openly Carry". [Re: Mr. T.] #6112228 01/01/16 12:37 AM
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Read previous posts and you will see where this issue stands on this board.


A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
Re: Why Would You Want To "Openly Carry". [Re: Mike W] #6112241 01/01/16 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mike W
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Pull it and you could be open game by the cops. A 12 year old kid was shot by the cops up in Cleveland for pointing a pellet gun.


Yes sir, but he pointed it at Police Officers, not some Dirtbag criminal


Actually, he neither pulled nor pointed.


So what is your understanding of what happened?

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Yes sir, but he pointed it at Police Officers, not some Dirtbag criminal [/quote]

Actually, he neither pulled nor pointed. [/quote]

So what is your understanding of what happened? [/quote]

I stand corrected, you are right Mike, he " reached " for the gun that the young thug had already been waving around, and when he reached for it, the Officers defended themselves and shot him.

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Back to the original question. I would never. Would you?


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Re: Why Would You Want To "Openly Carry". [Re: bill oxner] #6112389 01/01/16 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Back to the original question. I would never. Would you?


I like higher capacity magazines and you don't see any logical reason for them. Seems like having a logical and informed discussion about open vs concealed wouldn't be productive for either of us.

But, to answer your question directly: It's not a matter of "if" - it is a question of "where and when." On the ranch, yes of course because I have for the last 50 years.

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Back to the original question. I would never. Would you?


Yes, sometimes. When necessary. More CC than anything, but like not having to stress. Example is I am eating at a restaurant with my wife and wear my jacket inside. It gets hot, so I have to be careful no one sees my gun and cover it with the jacket that is now off. But, during movements and conversations I am constantly checking to make sure it is still covered. Makes life a lot easier. Not including riding a motorcycle. Difficult to conceal while riding in leathers.

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Re: Why Would You Want To "Openly Carry". [Re: Mr. T.] #6112485 01/01/16 03:26 AM
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I plan to start dressing and carrying like Paladin. Other times I may wear a big sombrero and carry a bandoleer of ammo.



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Re: Why Would You Want To "Openly Carry". [Re: Mr. T.] #6112809 01/01/16 01:49 PM
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I really don't expect much change. Forty five other states already allow open carry.


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Re: Why Would You Want To "Openly Carry". [Re: Mud] #6114936 01/02/16 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mud
Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.

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Originally Posted By: Choctaw
Originally Posted By: Mud
Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.


This is probably the best post I've seen on this topic.

I am all about freedom of choice; I choose to CC so I do not draw attention to myself.


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Originally Posted By: TXGUNNER308
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Originally Posted By: Mud
Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.


This is probably the best post I've seen on this topic.

I am all about freedom of choice; I choose to CC so I do not draw attention to myself.



Agreed. Why not just use your brain and get gas ahead of time in a good part of town??? Why even risk having to stop in a bad part of town????

If im a bad guy maybe i see your shiny 1911 and decide i need to upgrade my piece.

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Seeing how I'm one chicken fried steak away from having a full IWB. OC allows for OWB carry without worrying about printing/flashing.


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Originally Posted By: TXGUNNER308
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Originally Posted By: Mud
Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.


This is probably the best post I've seen on this topic.

I am all about freedom of choice; I choose to CC so I do not draw attention to myself.



Thanks. I too fully support both concealed and open carry, just use common sense.

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Real talk, Im a fat man. My pants and muffin top are not designed to have anything inside my waistband. During the winter my jacket is providing concealment. During the summer I usually leave it in the car. Now I can still tastefully carry without having to buy some weird tacticool vest in the Texas heat. I support open carry

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Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
I'm going to post this question and then sit back and watch the shoot out. My question is this: Why would you want to openly carry a pistol? My thought is that if you do and someone comes into a store that you are in to rob it, then you would be the first person that they target to shoot. In fact, my thought, to the bad guys it would be like you were wearing a target on your back and needed shooting. Wouldn't it be safer, for you, to carry your pistol concealed and have the opportunity of surprise when taking on the bad guys? Waiting for your thoughts popcorn


There are no statistics to support this happens. More likely a possible perp would leave and come back later when the risk is lower.


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Seeing how I'm one chicken fried steak away from having a full IWB. OC allows for OWB carry without worrying about printing/flashing.


Isn't this be in violation of CC?? I would think that would be "intentional" exposure of a concealed handgun.


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Several places that I have gone to are already putting up "No Firearms" signs. After talking to both owners, the owners don't care that you conceal, they just don't want it carried openly in their store. Sure, the sign doesn't mean anything for a CHL, but that's not the point. You may get the open carry act to pass, but what good does it do if many places now ban you from coming in!! The open carry is a bad deal, and will cause more restrictions and people pushing back against open carry. It was really good as a CHL, and now it's day 4, and I'm seeing more signs being posted. So, WTF! How go is open carry now.


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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Several places that I have gone to are already putting up "No Firearms" signs. After talking to both owners, the owners don't care that you conceal, they just don't want it carried openly in their store. Sure, the sign doesn't mean anything for a CHL, but that's not the point. You may get the open carry act to pass, but what good does it do if many places now ban you from coming in!! The open carry is a bad deal, and will cause more restrictions and people pushing back against open carry. It was really good as a CHL, and now it's day 4, and I'm seeing more signs being posted. So, WTF! How go is open carry now.



Some reports of people putting up 30.06 signs while putting up 30.07 signs

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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Several places that I have gone to are already putting up "No Firearms" signs. After talking to both owners, the owners don't care that you conceal, they just don't want it carried openly in their store. Sure, the sign doesn't mean anything for a CHL, but that's not the point. You may get the open carry act to pass, but what good does it do if many places now ban you from coming in!! The open carry is a bad deal, and will cause more restrictions and people pushing back against open carry. It was really good as a CHL, and now it's day 4, and I'm seeing more signs being posted. So, WTF! How go is open carry now.



Yo Chad you got it all wrong bro. I'm an operator and operators gotta operate. I mean, like now that OC is legal I am like totally legit when I suit up in all my 5.11 gear bro. I am currently dressed head to toe in full FDE and also have a full OD outfit as well. Now that I can wear my Glock and 2 extra mags on my person, I get mad respect everywhere I go. Granted I cant actually walk into a whole lot of places but I can totally walk around with my pistol on my hip, completely impressing people bro. I'm so stoked I already ordered a shoulder holster and drop thigh holster from Cheaper Than Dirt. Can anyone recommend a good tactical vest for winter????

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"It's in case I run across a drug-crazed illegal!"

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Originally Posted By: Choctaw
Originally Posted By: Mud
Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.


That's because officers already deal with the added attention that comes with a car, a badge, and a uniform.

If I choose to open carry, it's for the very same reason as any officer. I want it to be more easily available should I need to use it.

Also, studies have shown that BG's are far more fearful of the private citizen with a gun than a LEO. That's most likely because they know the citizen has more freedom to be the first to pull the trigger.

Two words come to mind when I consider those situations where I might choose to OC - isolated and alone.


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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
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Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.


That's because officers already deal with the added attention that comes with a car, a badge, and a uniform.

If I choose to open carry, it's for the very same reason as any officer. I want it to be more easily available should I need to use it.

Also, studies have shown that BG's are far more fearful of the private citizen with a gun than a LEO. That's most likely because they know the citizen has more freedom to be the first to pull the trigger.

Two words come to mind when I consider those situations where I might choose to OC - isolated and alone.


Can you please post links to said studies? Myself and others would appreciate it.

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What he said "Real talk, Im a fat man. My pants and muffin top are not designed to have anything inside my waistband. During the winter my jacket is providing concealment. During the summer I usually leave it in the car. Now I can still tastefully carry without having to buy some weird tacticool vest in the Texas heat. I support open carry"


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Do you ever have to stop in the wrong part of town to get gas? Why not, instead of concealing a weapon in your pants and hope you don't have to use it, wear it on your hip to ensure you won't have to? As stated earlier, thugs prey on the targets they know they can defeat. They, for the most part won't jack with someone they know will fight back.


As a law enforcement officer with many years of experience, I will suggest this theory is flawed. Some bad guys don't care if you are armed or not. When a person is practicing open carry in the hope of warding off trouble, he/she had better be ready to fight if the big iron doesn't intimidate the BG. Being heads-up with a command presence and aware of one's surroundings is as necessary in warding off thugs as keeping a weapon visible. Don't put yourself in a bad situation and expect the display of a weapon to save your bacon.

When I'm off duty I carry concealed because I do not want the attention.


That's because officers already deal with the added attention that comes with a car, a badge, and a uniform.

If I choose to open carry, it's for the very same reason as any officer. I want it to be more easily available should I need to use it.

Also, studies have shown that BG's are far more fearful of the private citizen with a gun than a LEO. That's most likely because they know the citizen has more freedom to be the first to pull the trigger.

Two words come to mind when I consider those situations where I might choose to OC - isolated and alone.


Can you please post links to said studies? Myself and others would appreciate it.


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