I asked a legitimate question and you decide to go straight to smart azz?

He even answered it honestly. And who ever said a hold over can't be done with a duplex reticle? Not me, and it would work just fine to 200-300 yards and stay in vitals. Plus I would never try to get anyone to change cartridges if they are happy with what they have.

If you know you want to shoot the heavier bullet why would you not got 300 for the velocity?

To me a 220 grain isn't going to hit an animal any "harder" than a 150. To me the biggest function of the heavier bullet is deeper penetration, it can shed more weight and still retain more at the same time. Also heavier bullets are going to be moving slower wich will decrease expansion and increase penetration all else equal.

I would roll the 150 fusion or ttsx and not look back.

I could load up some 110 Barnes TAC-X at about 3550 fps! That would hammer em!

Because I can push the 208 at 2678 in my 30-06 for the times I dont want/need to be shooting a 230 berger in the Ultra Mag.

Yes, those 208's were running 2680 fps!

I have tried a plethora of bullets in my 06's over the years, and I keep coming back to 180gr SGK. I have used the 180gr Partitions & Accubonds a fair bit and have tried out stepping up to 200gr in both the Sierra & Nosler offerings, but 180gr seems to be the sweet spot for my rifles. Whitetail just about fall over dead if you look at them right, so I tend to use hogs to judge performance, and I have hit hogs at just about every conceivable angle and the 180 SGK just keeps dropping them. It has no problems going lengthwise on a 200lb hog or wrecking both shoulders. If there is a problem with it, it is like virtually all lead bullets that expand well, is that it wrecks a fair bit of meat when you start breaking bones more substantial than ribs. The SGK just flies so well, performs so well, and does so at such an outstanding price. It makes it really hard to load up a dedicated hunting load with a premium bullet, especially when the SGK is cheap enough to plink with.

-ww

Another reason I load SGK's.

A couple years ago a buddy of mine drew a tag, and took a 4 day guided hunt. He didn't get a shot until the last day and it lazered 400-some odd yards. He was shooting a .308, and he got his sheep, but he told me if he had it to do again he would have used a flatter shooting cartridge.

its a aoudad, not a eland.

just shoot it with the 150 grain fusions and your going to be fine.

tons and tons and tons of aoudad and other sheep have hit the dirt from regular cup and core 150 grain bullets from a .270 and a 06'

but, but, but.....I thought the .308 was the perfect north American big game cartridge?

Change in scope and "flat shooting" is no longer a factor. Then you're just down to wind, and retained energy/ velocity.

Haha, way to flood everything everyone else has said.

I'm thinking 165gr Partitions. They have higher velocity than the Trophy Bonded tips and almost as much energy.

If you are going by the velocity on the box, don't. The velocity often does not match up to actual speeds.

Yes, I was. Really? Still, it's an approximate, right?

No reason the fusion or ttsx you already have isn't completely adequate for the task at hand. Run what you got.

It will get you in the ball park. I've seen it as low a 200 fps less than advertised, and 100 fps faster than advertised. It is generally lower than what the box says.

I handload 165 grain SGK's for my Tikka 1 in 11" twist. It's a tackdriver and hits hard. I also load a 180 grain for it and it's just as accurate.

Yep. I always use the bullet that is the most accurate in the rifle and could care less about the weight of the bullet.

I would agree, to an extent. But you don't want to use a bullet designed for varmints on big game.

If you are using 150's and you gun likes them then use that bullet. I killed a bunch of sheep using my 280 with 140 Partions. Put the bullet where it belongs and you'll be fine. Are you hunting the State Park near Quitaque? If so be prepared to take a long shot. Hunted it twice and took a sheep off of it. After the 1st morning sheep will be very wary. Did see some good MD on the east side.

This.

I tried out some nosler ballistic tips in my .30-06 back when they first came out and had a few bad experiences. They would come apart real bad if you hit the shoulder blade and fail to leave a blood trail. Happened on 3 or 4 animals and eventually lost a nice buck that way so I threw the things in the trash.

150gr Corloks(sp?) for the win

Chital,

shot placement trumps power.

The ability to reliably place shots is far, far more important than power.

As for studying paper, quit focusing on marketing hype and start studying basic marksmanship and the fundamentals of how to make corrections for elevation and wind.

A 30-06 with 180's carries substantial recoil. Go with a good 150 - 165 grain and practice first at 100, then 200, and on out. Practice from field positions, not just the bench.

Also consider a 260, 6.5-284, 7-08 or 308 and quality ammo from Chad.

They all will provide reliable terminal results if you provide reliable shot placement. Without reliable shot placement, power is worthless.

Also, as already pointed out, the info on the box is only vaguely accurate.

I chronographed five different boxes of 30-06 ammo a few years ago. Most were 100 - 150 fps below the advertised velocity, and running almost identical to 308 velocities - or less in one instance.

For practice, you would be well served to buy a good 223 bolt rifle, (try a Ruger American, good accuracy at a good price although the stocks are flimsy) good ammo, good scope and then take a lesson or two from FJG, or I'd be happy to help you in Austin.

But but the Auodad is the official tough animal of the THF. You must sprinkle magic dragon poop on your Bullets to bring them down