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Pistol whippings would increase 10 fold

GW, DPS, OIG, TABC, and I believe now Investigators with the AG office are all on schedule C pay scale. DPS has gone to a 50 hour work week, 10 hours a week of overtime. I think the pay scale is showing the overtime built in, but not sure. I am schedule c and there was no big raise this session, other than 2.5% to offset the 2.6% up in our retirement contribution. Been talk of dps getting on a different Salary schedule but did not hear of it passing this year.

Good raises but I wonder how much health insurance went up

Do you live in Mayberry? I guess I sort of do. However, big city high school teachers put their unarmed lives on the line every day. They get physically attacked. There was a story about an elderly bus driver attacked just recently. We have all seen the stories on the news.

Our retirement contribution (TMRS) went up to 7% a few years ago. It took a chunk out of our pay but it has made ALL the difference in my retirement figures . . . Even though that's a whole 30 years away.

I think it puts ours at 9+%, and will be worth it. 9 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours and 12 minutes from now! But who is counting?

Really? Your really gonna compare them?

I used to get in fights as a painter at work but it's not even in the same league as cops

Really? Your really gonna compare them?

I used to get in fights as a painter at work but it's not even in the same league as cops

You used to get in fights as a painter at work and this makes you better than anyone? Another internet tough guy....

Shows your lack of knowledge. My wife gets to the school 1 1/2 hrs before school and doesn't leave until after 5 every day. She does parent teacher conferences during her lunch. She also does about 2 weeks of training is the summer. She works about 10 hrs a day during the week and spends half a day at the school on sunday preparing for the week. She doesn't make nearly enough for the hours she works and crap she has to put up with from the admin and parents.

Yes they did.

My wife taught for a few years after she got out of college. They started her at $46k a year. She worked about 45-50 hours a week 36 weeks of the year and maybe a dozen 12 hour days for UIL competitions on the weekends. My first "real" job offer out of college was with DoD as a Federale getting paid $38k working 50+ hours a week on the border. It had been a dream of mine for a long time to be a federal agent and the hiring process was almost 2 years long... I kept my bartending job.

That is one of the dumbest dang post I have ever seen on here RumpRanger!!! Teachers are way underpaid and your a total shipdit for posting this!

My mom is a retired teacher 30+ years and have a cousin that's been in about 15 years. Both say they are/were paid well for time worked. Sure everyone would like to get paid more but the good school districts do pay well for time worked. Of course the lower paid schools will get the less experienced teachers and make less...that's true with any profession. My mom always said that if she thought she was so underpaid she would have taken a different job that paid more.

This is complete NONSENSE. My wife chose education because she has a passion for it knowing full well pay wasnt all that great. When i first met her i thought 3 months off and 8-5. Well after being married to an educator i see how ignorant i was. FIRST, SHE GETS TO WORK AT 7AM AND DOESNT LEAVE UNTIL AFTER 5PM WITH A 30 MIN LUNCH. SECOND, SHES ONLY OFF FOR 6 WEEKS. LASTLY, TO DO WHAT SHE DOES WITH ALL THE BS RESTRICTIONS AND RED TAPE THESE DAYS YOU COULDNT PAY ME ENOUGH. MAYBE THE KIDS YOU ARE EXPOSED TO ARE GREAT KIDS, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY MY WIFE WORKS WITH ARE F@CKING HELL ON 2 LEGS. I RATHER WORK WITH A BUNCH OF RACIST, SPITEFUL, PISSED OFF ROUGHNECKS, WITH LITTLE SLEEP, WORKING 18HR DAYS, LIVING OUT OF A PICKUP, EATING ALLSUPS THAN DEAL WITH KIDS IN SCHOOL THESE DAYS. IT IS NOT AN EASY JOB.

Just remember teachers are an integral part of how this country will be in the future. MOST who do it for a job quit within a few years because almost any job with a select few professions is easier than teaching.

Make it Special Ed and I would bet 95 out of 100 couldn't cut it for a month.

Did you know that the Trooper work week is 50 hours? It is called AUO automatic, unavoidable overtime that is built in to the salary. The month long border rotation isn't a walk in the park. Away from family and working more than 50 hours a week out of your car and hotel. Just ask one what all they do behind the scenes. Same with Teachers who do an immeasurable amount of preparation to help our kids succeed. Both deserve more IMO.

They couldn't pay me enough to do either job!

Also, kids don't carry much cash, the bribes usually suck.

Over paid? Obviously you guys are not teachers and do not know what you are talking about! Just because the kids are out for three months doesn't mean the teachers are out for three months. My wife is a teacher and she works 12 hour days during the school year along with spending even longer hours during school functions. On top of that she has a ton of training she has to complete during the summer. Then she has to deal with the idiotic government sticking their nose into everything which screws everything up. Then you have to deal with Admin. Then you have to deal with children that are totally undisciplined. They aren't disciplined at home and because of fear of being sued the school doesn't allow the teachers to discipline them class. They've rolled mentally handicapped children in the classrooms which the teachers have to deal with which totally disrupt the classrooms. My wife has had one of these students literally throw a desk at her and hit her and the school didn't removed him from her class. The documentation has to be utterly over the top to get a child removed all the while the other children's education pays the price because these children require so much attention. And I can go on and on!

So before you start talking about how they are over paid maybe you need to go spend a week in some of these classrooms!

You gotta it right and you really haven't even scratched the surface!

iregardless of the profession just do a general search for applications trying to get into a field of work. Some folks will take on a line of work for the love of it but for the most part the work involved verses the pay involved dictates things. I'm refering to folks who have somewhat of a clue about their carrers and not the folks who take any job just to make ends meet. Alot depends on where you want this job. Being a cop in Dallas is not quite as populour as being a cop in Frisco. Throw teachers in that same example also. Today I own a metal roofing company. Spent years 20 -30 up on the roofs. I rarely saw a white/black guy applying for those jobs. I made good money though. Its all hispanic today. But a young white or black man with a strong work ethic could make ALOT of money in the metal roofing business today running a crew. But they don't want that job.....to dam hard in the summers. High tech age we live in almost demands they stay out of construction. But their wooses today also.

Now go do your research. Its not rocket science.

I also have a wife who is a teacher, and I also believe that they are underpaid... First off, my wife has been working as a teacher for 10 years. She makes about $2000 more than a brand new teacher. There is no incentive for longevity... 1/3 of all new teachers quit after three years, and 46% are gone within 5 years per the NEA. If the job paid so well for the time worked, the turnover wouldn't be so high.

Second, I make a whole lot more money than my wife, and I only have a two year degree. If you compare my total compensation package to my wife's, I easily make three times as much as she does. Go take a look at the insurance for TEA employees. It sucks! It would cost about 1/3rd of my wife's paycheck to insure our family, and it is less coverage with higher deductibles than I have.

I have several friends who are police officers... not a single one of them seem to be underpaid. Most of them have side gigs that pay more than teaching on an hourly basis!

Glad DPS got a raise. How did the teacher slam get thrown in there so quickly? My mother was a teacher, she only worked 72 hr weeks for about 10.5 months out of the year. Got to drop down to 40-50 hr week the other 1.5 mo. Took almost 30 yrs of teaching to get to a retirement income that is acceptable. She never bitched that I heard. I knew the sacrifices she made. There are tons of her students (including myself) that have a much better business skill set than they would have gotten from a teacher that didn't care. The only problem she ever had was shitty unappreciative parents that did a piss poor job of teaching their own children respect.

I don't have much of an opinion on whether teachers are overpaid or underpaid, but I will point out most supporting them are teachers themselves or have close family that are teachers. I imagine putting up with snot nose kids can be tough, but time off and the pay grade seems "reasonable".

Two of my better friends wives are teachers and they DO have it made. They probably don't put the effort into it that a lot of others do though. They teacher pre-k so how hard could it be? Throw so crayons at em and make sure they don't eat glue sticks

Maybe that's because they know firsthand about the facts/demands of teaching, instead of just spewing crap on a keyboard.