How tall are you?

The common source of riflemen's problems is between their ears.

The key is to learn to shoot without flinching, switching to lighter calibers is just ignoring the problem.

Love my 300 win mag.. After taking Jason class big boost on shooting long range. I run a thunderbeast brake with 230 gr bergers. Recoil is like a 308 nothing major at all. Will be giving my 300 win mag a break this year and will run my 338 lm with 300 gr smk!

I'm glad you asked. I used to own a 300 win mag, and unless your hunting elk its way too much gun for a white tail. The 30.06 is a fine deer cartridge. I wouldn't dump some cash on a 300 thinking your doing yourself a favor. You might just be power trippin. Remember the 300 kicks on both ends, thus making it a less than pleasant gun to shoot. Oh yah did I mention you can wake the dead with its boom too. Your neighbors might not like you too much for sighting that one in. The shells are priced higher than hell too. My experiences with it are bad to the point that I traded it for a 30 30 and went out and dropped a 7 year old white tail in its tracks with the 30 30 just to prove a point. When I shot deer with the 300 mag they ran off with very little blood trail. I tried a few different rounds with only one kill. It was a heavy 220 grain round to slow the velocity down. You want the energy to actually collect in the deer, and not on the exit side flying into no mans land. Now days I use a .223 rem and don't have a problem at all with it. It kills deer just like the 30.06, .270 or any other fine cartridge. Sometimes I think a little better. Ever seen those guys with the big mud tires and trucks that don't ever get in the mud. Maybe they're compensating for something, because my little ol 32s have been muddy since I put them on my truck. Sometimes bigger is not better. A 150 grain soft point out of a 30.06 will kill deer all day long and its 2900 fps muzzle velocity is perfect for a white tail. I hunt the 125 to 200 pounders. I would rather use a spear than the 300 mag on deer.

Wow. Would take 4 hours to respond to that. Has to be a trolling post.

This was my favorite part!! Something tells me you didn't find the vitals with all those other shots.

LOL. The in that post is one of the deepest piles I have seen on here. And that is going some.

There are plenty of rounds that are very effective on Whitetail, including the 300WM. It is certainly not needed to kill even the largest Whitetail, but it really isn't about need at all. If you can shoot one well, use it, like any other legal round. Putting a good bullet in the right place equals success. Poor bullet selection and/or poor placement equals failure.

But but but... He's a REALKILLER

So, is this about me or the guy asking the question about the 300 win mag. Im giving the man or woman an honest answer of what I have personally delt with when shooting the 300 mag. Seems like people on this web sight cant handle my honesty very well, so they lash back at me with some childish [censored]. Why not just read what I said and take it to heart. Or would you rather just make fun of people. That's real original. The man or woman asked a question and Im sure they can come to a conclusion on there own. I love it when you say something about bullet placement. I never mentioned there being an accuracy problem. Im trying to help the person with the topic.

Realkiller, what bullets did you use on deer out of your .300 WM? Perhaps bullet choice was the reason for your poor experience. And you said that you did recover one deer. What bullet did you use in that instance, and how did the wound channel appear?

I killed my best mule deer with the .300 WM and a very nice coues buck, but IIRC, just one whitetail. The performance from the big .300 was excellent, at least in my hands.

I've got some friends that own some jacked up big wheeled trucks and you couldn't pay them to take those trucks in the mud. So my comparison on that was why have something so big and powerful if your not going to use it if you really don't need it. I understand the cool thing, but I always figured they just wanted to look down on people from their jacked up shinny trucks. I have an older 4x4 that I don't mind driving anywhere. Its a daily driver and its a lot more practical for me. Like the 30 06 is for a lot of hunters. I shot a white tail buck one time with the 300 mag right at the top of the heart. It was the first time I ever saw a deer just stand there with no reaction pumping out blood onto the ground. He just stood there for ten minutes. I figured he would lay down and die. He finally stepped into the brush so I waited. It was icey and I figured that there would be no problems finding his blood trail on the ice. I walked over there and no deer. I could see his tracks going up a hill, but no blood trail. He bled out at the bottom of the hill and I probably should of shot him again, but surely not with the powerful 300 mag right? I lost his tracks eventually when the sun came up and melted the ice. I found that deer 300 yrds from there about 3 years later. There was about 3 gallons of blood, but it was all in one spot. Im never afraid to tell the truth about a loss or missed shot because its just a part of hunting. Ive never met an experienced hunter in my life that hasn't missed or lost an animal. It seems like on this web sight no one is capable of doing either one of those. Must be nice. Or maybe theyre just to proud to say so. I am an accomplished hunter, so telling the truth about something that Ive really delt with doesn't bother me at all. I like to keep it honest.

You sir are a LIAR!!!!!! No heart shot buck is going to stay on his feet for 10 minutes no matter what caliber he was hit with!

I have no idea what other BS you spewed after that comment because I quit reading right then!

Question...and I am not being a smart azz or trying to pick a fight...I'm a retired engineer and am always curious.

Looking at the Winchester Ballistic SilverTips tables you have a 30-06 that shoots a 180 gr premium bullet at 2750 fps and you have a 300 Win Mag that shoots the same 180 gr bullet at 2950 fps. How can there be much difference in the performance of these on a game animal? it would seem that both would kill equally well and the 200 fps advantage of the 300 Win Mag would seem to be an advantage. I'd also think that unless you hit a shoulder either one of the above would be a pass through.

I tried the rem core locks 150 grain, win ballistic silver tips 180 grain and some old 220 grain shells that had an aluminum rounded tip on the end I think winchesters. I figured the round tip and 220 grains would slow that sucker down. I shot that deer down in a bottom eating acorns at 2 pm on a full moon day in 85 degree weather. It was opening day of rifle season about 13 years ago and it was hot. I shot him through the top of the neck and through the shoulders like an archer would do from a tree. He was feeding right at me and was below me.I dropped him in his tracks. No exit since I shot him facing almost right at me at 30 yrds. He had 20 non typical points and I wasn't about to let him see me or wind me. Even had 2 points broke off. Remember this aint the movies I will take a shot if I feel like it will kill them. Half the deer Ive killed wernt standing broadside and still. I wouldn't have them If I didn't take my window. Reaction is key when your hunting free ranging animals. It was the 220 grain

Where are my hip waders?

Classic!!

You are absolutely correct on the numbers, especially since you are comparing bullets of the same caliber.
Numbers cannot and do not lie, no matter how many stories people tell. The .300 gives a little more punch and a little more range than the '06.

As for the pass through part, that all depends on angle, bone encountered, bullet construction, and a host of other factors.

Just because your never witnessed something doesn't mean it cant happen. Its was the first time it happened to me and I have never seen it happen again. You must walk in every mans shoes to say something like that.

He is messing with us......

So what you are saying is the 300 Win Mag is a phenomenon cartridge, that even though it runs the same bullet as the .308 Win and .30-06 something, maybe velocity, makes it cause deer to live for ten minutes, standing still after a heart shot? Totaly going against the medical laws of hypovolemia, and traumatic shock. Aaaaaand! The .223, 270, and .30-30 are far better at killing anything that the phenominal .300 Win Mag, right?






When is the last time someone scanned your CAT?

Im pretty sure the 150s were at 3200 + fps in the 300 mag and 2900 fps in the 30.06 so is like 300 fps. Doesn't seem like much, but when shooting east tx white tails it could be a big factor. The gun dealer asked me when I bought the 300 mag why are you buying a gun too powerful for deer and I said naa it will work, but over all for me it didn't. Its funny I traded that 300 mag for that 30 30 because I hunted deer successfully with one for years. And went out and killed a mature white tail with it. Dropped it in its tracks. I regained my confidence with a 30 30. I have friends that used to hunt with the 300 mag and liked it. That's why I bought one. They used some hand loaded 150 grain hornady inter locks soft points. I didn't have access to these rounds. They no longer shoot the 300 mag because they realized that the didn't need that much bang for our deer. They went to using a 270 280 and the .308 and have done just fine. Hey if you like it, that's your prerogative. Whats that Bobby Brown song?

God I hope so!!!! I really really hope so!!!!!!!!!!

Why?? I, and most other hunters, have never shot a deer at a distance that a 30-30 wouldn't work. All you gain in shooting Texas whitetail with a .300 is a sore shoulder and wallet.