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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5567461 01/27/15 07:28 PM
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Is there going to be a video coming of the comp?

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The guy running the drone said he would edit it together and get it to me.


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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5567876 01/27/15 11:33 PM
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Jason, I have a 'double throw down, secret PO Box' if you'd like to send the ''Shooter Excellence' award discussed earlier. I ain't proud!

I had a great time and I WILL BE BACK!

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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: P_102] #5567895 01/27/15 11:38 PM
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Nope. Gonn save it for next time.

Mike, I just hit the 2" x 2" plate at 200 yards just for you. grin


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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5567907 01/27/15 11:44 PM
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You'll be awarding it to someone else next time!

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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5567962 01/28/15 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Nope. Gonn save it for next time.

Mike, I just hit the 2" x 2" plate at 200 yards just for you. grin


Just cause there's no wind today! I already texted you my feelings on the subject, which I will refrain from posting here

Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: Ramball36] #5568019 01/28/15 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
Farthest shot was a prairie dog sized target at 300 I believe. And I think there was one guy shooting a .223 in an AR, buzz shot a .223 bolt gun.

Thanks Ramball



Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5568045 01/28/15 12:36 AM
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I'm going to need more power than my 3-9x40 Leupold. Also need one that has target turrets and mils or something similar. My little 6.5 Swede can do her part but I think the optics held her back some.

Also, I think some guys not having a good sling (and knowing how to use it) hurt some on the standing shots. I used my USGI cotton web sling from my Garand and it helped a bunch. I think my CMP Garand matches helped me hit that pig from standing!

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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5568114 01/28/15 01:15 AM
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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: thedoveshooter] #5568414 01/28/15 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: thedoveshooter
I'm going to need more power than my 3-9x40 Leupold. Also need one that has target turrets and mils or something similar. My little 6.5 Swede can do her part but I think the optics held her back some.

Also, I think some guys not having a good sling (and knowing how to use it) hurt some on the standing shots. I used my USGI cotton web sling from my Garand and it helped a bunch. I think my CMP Garand matches helped me hit that pig from standing!


I never adjusted scope x higher than 8x the whole day. What's a sling?

Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: Brother in-law] #5568511 01/28/15 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: thedoveshooter
I'm going to need more power than my 3-9x40 Leupold. Also need one that has target turrets and mils or something similar. My little 6.5 Swede can do her part but I think the optics held her back some.

Also, I think some guys not having a good sling (and knowing how to use it) hurt some on the standing shots. I used my USGI cotton web sling from my Garand and it helped a bunch. I think my CMP Garand matches helped me hit that pig from standing!


I never adjusted scope x higher than 8x the whole day. What's a sling?

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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5568536 01/28/15 05:13 AM
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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: thedoveshooter] #5568699 01/28/15 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: thedoveshooter
I'm going to need more power than my 3-9x40 Leupold. Also need one that has target turrets and mils or something similar. My little 6.5 Swede can do her part but I think the optics held her back some.

Also, I think some guys not having a good sling (and knowing how to use it) hurt some on the standing shots. I used my USGI cotton web sling from my Garand and it helped a bunch. I think my CMP Garand matches helped me hit that pig from standing!


You did pretty darn good on the standing stages.


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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5568828 01/28/15 02:46 PM
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If I could make a simple observation on what I saw. There were really 3 main things I saw that shooters were doing that needs improvement.

The first thing (and main thing) I noticed was most shooters come totally off their rifle after the shot. When you fire and come off your rifle (lose cheek weld and butt of rifle comes off shoulder), you have to reposition back on the rifle which takes more time. It also can change up the recoil impulse and/or poi due to not getting back on the rifle in the same spot you were in. Plus, shooters were trying to cycle the bolt off the rifle. If you stay on the rifle, you can use your cheek as leverage to hold the rifle in place and cycle the bolt, while staying on the gun. Many shooters come off the rifle, back up, take their left hand and hold the stock, and cycle the bolt with their right hand to chamber another round. Also, most would have to take more time to find the target again b/c they lost it from getting out of position. Stay on the rifle!

Second, was jumping the trigger. Many shooters would shoot, and their trigger finger would bounce off the trigger as the shot broke. The proper way is to have a straight 90 degree pull to the trigger and press the trigger to the rear throughout the duration of recoil. This is called follow through. You have to have good follow through for accurate shooting.

Third, at the start of a stage, shooters shoulder their rifle and would try to find the target only through the scope. Most of the stages we started out of position where you had to shoulder the rifle and find the target. Often times, shooters would get on the glass, and try to find the target only when looking through the scope, and would end up looking totally in the wrong direction. Raise your head up and look over the top of the scope and line up the rifle first, then get into the scope. There were many shooters that ran out of time b/c they stayed looking through the scope and didn't line the rifle up on target first. Line the rifle up on target by looking over the top of the scope first, then get into the scope and on target.

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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: J.G.] #5568939 01/28/15 03:31 PM
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I definitely learned I need to work on trigger control and not slap the trigger.

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Thanks for the suggestions chad, I know Garvey and Judd were talking about me slapping the trigger too.

Now, if you don't mind I would like to address the only let down I had during the entire day from you and your spotting, which was a severe lack of enthusiasm. We needed a lot more out of you. Might want to take notes from Judd sometime to help yourself come out of your shell a little bit

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Thanks for the suggestions chad, I know Garvey and Judd were talking about me slapping the trigger too.

Now, if you don't mind I would like to address the only let down I had during the entire day from you and your spotting, which was a severe lack of enthusiasm. We needed a lot more out of you. Might want to take notes from Judd sometime to help yourself come out of your shell a little bit


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Wish this event was closer, sounds like a fun time.

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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
Thanks for the suggestions chad, I know Garvey and Judd were talking about me slapping the trigger too.

Now, if you don't mind I would like to address the only let down I had during the entire day from you and your spotting, which was a severe lack of enthusiasm. We needed a lot more out of you. Might want to take notes from Judd sometime to help yourself come out of your shell a little bit


rofl

Shooting a shotgun a lot sort of fights the whole trigger control thing...one of the reasons I don't shoot it near like I did.


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Re: Hunter Rifle Challenge 2015. Lets figure out a date. [Re: SR025] #5569132 01/28/15 05:04 PM
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I definitely learned I need to work on trigger control and not slap the trigger.


You slap the trigger??? I think it's more like punching it peep

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I need to slow down when shooting, I get the clock in my head and start to rush, especially when there are 4 or 5 shots in 60seconds. Seems like the last few shots are always rushed

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Originally Posted By: BigPig
I need to slow down when shooting, I get the clock in my head and start to rush, especially when there are 4 or 5 shots in 60seconds. Seems like the last few shots are always rushed


I did this but opposite. I rushed the first shot or two, and then realized I had plenty of time for the next few shots...

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I definitely learned I need to work on trigger control and not slap the trigger.


You slap the trigger??? I think it's more like punching it peep


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I need to slow down when shooting, I get the clock in my head and start to rush, especially when there are 4 or 5 shots in 60seconds. Seems like the last few shots are always rushed

Exactly!! We do the time for 2 reasons. It helps to schedule the match time so we don't run long. But mostly, it adds a little stress, or "buck fever" to the shooting. The 1 minute par time we had for most stages is PLENTY to make all your shots. But look at it this way. I'd rather have 3-4 well aimed shots that score rather than 5 shots rushed and off target. So, take your time and make your hits count. But, there was plenty of time on all the stages to get all your shots off if you shot the stage correctly. On our 5 dot drill, we normally have 20 seconds in competitions to do it. But think about it. You start on the rifle ready to fire. If you are ready to when the buzzer starts and fire your first round, you basically have 4 shots in just under 20 seconds, so roughly 1 shot per 5 seconds. Honestly, that's a lot of time. So a minute for 5 rounds is a lot.


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Also, something to think about. I saw there were a lot of stock factory rifles shooting with a bi-pod. I would recommend testing your rifle with and without a bi-pod. Shoot some groups with 4 or 5 rounds (more than 3 rounds) each way on and off. You may find that the rifle shoots better with the bi-pod off and resting on a backpack or bags. I personally will not do a load work up on an unbedded, factory rifle with a bi-pod. The bi-pod causes the stock to flex and put stress on the mating of the stock and action. The bi-pod can easily throw your shots off and open up your groups. Just something to think about!


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