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Re: Transporting deer question [Re: Texas Dan] #5553172 01/20/15 05:41 AM
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While we're on the topic of transporting deer:

We invited one of our neighbor's and his 14 year old son out to hunt on our place this weekend. His son bagged his first deer (an little 4 pt buck). He tagged the deer, filled out his log, and we taught the kid how to clean and quarter his first deer.

I transported the deer back to our home in the back of my truck in an ice chest + the tagged head in a garbage bag in the bed. I had our neighbor's kid ride in the truck with me (their car would not have been appropriate for carrying the cooler and/or head).

My question is this: can I transport the deer to the processor without the kid being with me? Can he "donate" it to me and have me transport it for him to the processeor? If so, what do I need in addition to the tag? Do I need a copy of his license? Do I simply need him to fill out a WMD?


There is a special, one-page document that you should fill out and give to anyone that you give meat. I cannot remember the exact name of it but it's easy to fill out and can be downloaded from the TPWD website. It's purpose is to transfer ownership of the meat from the person who shot and tagged the deer, to someone else so they can legally transport it to a final destination.

Not sure if it would be required for the deer you transported for the youngster since it was tagged. Still, I can sense a problem arising if a officer believes you shot the deer and had the youngster use his tag on it. The form might serve as evidence the deer was truly given to you.


If meat and head are delivered with tag, no wildlife resource document is necessary. The shooter is covered and you are covered.

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I think it is WRD not WMD.

The WRD is needed when you are transporting some partial part of covered wildlife that doesn't include the tagged head, not when you are transporting the entire, tagged animal, so in the case of the neighbor's son's deer, he didn't even have to ride with you when you took the deer back to your house and you won't need a WRD to take it to the processor. You would only need the WRD if the son had kept the heads and tags and you were just taking the meat to the processor.


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Originally Posted By: postoak
I think it is WRD not WMD.

The WRD is needed when you are transporting some partial part of covered wildlife that doesn't include the tagged head, not when you are transporting the entire, tagged animal, so in the case of the neighbor's son's deer, he didn't even have to ride with you when you took the deer back to your house and you won't need a WRD to take it to the processor. You would only need the WRD if the son had kept the heads and tags and you were just taking the meat to the processor.


We were told by gw to have the WRD if the deer was not in possession of the person that tagged it. We often have several different vehicles at camp but only one group has a trailer, ansdd often carries several coolers back, so we asked.

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Sig - that gw was certainly not saying what the TPWD site specifically says:

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NOTE: No wildlife resource document is required when the entire carcass of a deer (including head, which may be skinned or unskinned) or antelope (including head, which must be unskinned) is given to, or transported by, another person if the tag from the hunter's license and other required permits or the pronghorn permit remains attached until the carcass reaches its final destination and is quartered.


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Originally Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

We were told by gw to have the WRD if the deer was not in possession of the person that tagged it. We often have several different vehicles at camp but only one group has a trailer, ansdd often carries several coolers back, so we asked.
That's the thing with GW's. You can ask 10 GW the same question and get 10 different answers!! bang

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I had our neighbor's kid fill out a WRD, and I'll transport the quartered deer along with the tagged head, to the processor. I believe that we'll be covered, correct?

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You filled out a WRD when you didn't need to! No doubt there's a big fine for that! /s


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I'll be the first to admit that I don't usually take the doe heads with me to the processor.

Re: Transporting deer question [Re: DeadRooster] #5553856 01/20/15 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: DeadRooster
I had our neighbor's kid fill out a WRD, and I'll transport the quartered deer along with the tagged head, to the processor. I believe that we'll be covered, correct?


Based on all the comments shared, you should covered twice.


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Originally Posted By: postoak
Sig - that gw was certainly not saying what the TPWD site specifically says:

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NOTE: No wildlife resource document is required when the entire carcass of a deer (including head, which may be skinned or unskinned) or antelope (including head, which must be unskinned) is given to, or transported by, another person if the tag from the hunter's license and other required permits or the pronghorn permit remains attached until the carcass reaches its final destination and is quartered.


Note, that quote indicates "entire carcass" not quartered deer on ice.


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redchevy -- here we go again with vaguely stated rules that are open to interpretation. What is an "entire" carcass? I think it is pretty obvious that they meant to include field-dressed deer -- but they aren't "entire". What is a "carcass"? Perhaps a whole deer isn't a carcass; perhaps it has to be field-dressed to become a carcass. And with regard to your comment, I don't think that anything in that rule indicates that an "entire carcass" couldn't be referring to a quartered deer. But I could be wrong.


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Just do a half assed job of gutting and throw him in the back of the truck with his head hanging over the tailgate. That way, everyone can see what a bad [censored] hunter you are and the G.W. will wave you thru any checkpoint they have set up. flehan

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To answer the OP's original question.

We just had a game Warden last week do a Q&A with a group of youth hunters. This exact question came up. The Warden said to put the tag in a plastic bag, take a knife and slit one of the quarters of meat and push the plastic bag with the tag into the slit in the meat. The tag is now attached to the carcass. Most game wardens are not going to ticket you if the tag is in the cooler, attached to the cooler, attached to a deer head or sex part but if you have an attitude or he has a bad day he can legally ticket you if you have a quartered deer and the tag is not attached to the meat somewhere.

Top of page 65 of the 2013-2014 Outdoor Annual

"Where to Attach Tag to Deer or Turkey"

"The hunting license tag may be attached anywhere on a deer or turkey so that it is not damaged, defaced, or
lost in transporting or handling. For deer, the appropriate tag or applicable permit must remain attached to
the deer until the deer reaches its final destination and is quartered. If the animal is a deer and the head is
severed from the carcass (body), then the appropriate tag or applicable permit must remain attached to the
carcass."

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Re: Transporting deer question [Re: 1riot1ranger] #5557017 01/22/15 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: 1riot1ranger
[quote=wilhunt]The TPW annual has info for transporting the deer if it was killed by someone other than the one in possession. Having a document with a place for all needed info would be helpful but you can put the same info on any paper as long as it is complete.[/quote

How about this? As a landowner can I write my own receipts?
Exception

Instead of proof of sex, the hunter may obtain a receipt from a taxidermist or a signed statement from the landowner or the landowner's agent containing the following information:

Name of person who killed the wildlife resource;
Date the wildlife resource was killed; and
One of the following, as applicable: whether the deer was antlered or antlerless; the sex of the antelope; the sex of the turkey and whether a beard was attached; or the sex of the pheasant.


Good question.....

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[quote=wilhunt]How about this? As a landowner can I write my own receipts?
Exception

Instead of proof of sex, the hunter may obtain a receipt from a taxidermist or a signed statement from the landowner or the landowner's agent containing the following information:

Name of person who killed the wildlife resource;
Date the wildlife resource was killed; and
One of the following, as applicable: whether the deer was antlered or antlerless; the sex of the antelope; the sex of the turkey and whether a beard was attached; or the sex of the pheasant.


Good question.....


I emailed TP&W this question and they said use the WRD:
You will need to use the attached form: https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdforms/media/pwd_980_l2000_wildlife_resource_document.pdf

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Originally Posted By: DeadRooster
While we're on the topic of transporting deer:

We invited one of our neighbor's and his 14 year old son out to hunt on our place this weekend. His son bagged his first deer (an little 4 pt buck). He tagged the deer, filled out his log, and we taught the kid how to clean and quarter his first deer.

I transported the deer back to our home in the back of my truck in an ice chest + the tagged head in a garbage bag in the bed. I had our neighbor's kid ride in the truck with me (their car would not have been appropriate for carrying the cooler and/or head).

My question is this: can I transport the deer to the processor without the kid being with me? Can he "donate" it to me and have me transport it for him to the processeor? If so, what do I need in addition to the tag? Do I need a copy of his license? Do I simply need him to fill out a WMD?


There is a special, one-page document that you should fill out and give to anyone that you give meat. I cannot remember the exact name of it but it's easy to fill out and can be downloaded from the TPWD website. It's purpose is to transfer ownership of the meat from the person who shot and tagged the deer, to someone else so they can legally transport it to a final destination.

Not sure if it would be required for the deer you transported for the youngster since it was tagged. Still, I can sense a problem arising if a officer believes you shot the deer and had the youngster use his tag on it. The form might serve as evidence the deer was truly given to you.


If meat and head are delivered with tag, no wildlife resource document is necessary. The shooter is covered and you are covered.

If the person who killed the deer is not with you then you will still need a resource document. The hunter gave you the meat and head to transport. You need proof he did that in writing with a WRD. If the GW stops to check you he will assume you killed that deer if you do not have proof otherwise. The hunters license tag is not proof. A MLD permit will work in this instance though as the WRD.


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This is the exact same answer the Game Warden also told the youth when he visited our group a couple weeks ago.

“If meat and head are delivered with tag, no wildlife resource document is necessary. The shooter is covered and you are covered.”

Honestly, the WRD is so simple to do just fill it out if you are confused on what to do.

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