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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: KG68]
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11/24/14 03:46 PM
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Coffee in the morning beer in the evening. X2
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Grosvenor]
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11/24/14 03:55 PM
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Grown [censored] man that can't handle his alcohol shouldn't be drinking anywhere. Grown [censored] man that has some self control should be able to have a beer wherever he dang well pleases. Just my Couldn't agree more. Grown a$$ man drinking beer with one hand and a gun in the other has no self control. Just my Why do I keep clicking on this ridiculous thread? Do some of you folks honestly believe there is no difference between having a few beers over the course of a 2-4 hour hunt and getting hammered? Someone on here actually suggested that even if you have self-control you should not have a beer in the stand because some other idiot might take that "example" and use it as an excuse to get plowed. And the guy I just quoted...really? No self control??? It's not that I have to have a beer. It's not even that I need a beer. It's that I'm sitting in a box blind doing what I love on my ranch, watching animals and the sunset and enjoying the wonderful, refreshing taste of a frosty brew. Good news is we don't have to hunt together. Amen. I don't need a beer, I don't have to have a beer. So I drink one while holding a firearm. Makes since Amen is the last word loved ones hear after a fatal accident involving guns and alcohol. Good Luck
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/24/14 04:05 PM
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The drinking mindset is strong in America. Just the "cool" thing to do. Witness all the photos a lot of guys take with their beers as the subject.
Took a monumental effort by MADD to get the drinking and driving laws/enforcement to have any teeth. Guys made the same arguments about those too.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/24/14 04:06 PM
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/24/14 04:15 PM
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/24/14 04:22 PM
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I don't get hammered, but I like to enjoy a beer or cocktail in the stand, it's part of the relaxation of being outdoors to me.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/24/14 04:32 PM
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Like I said, good news is we don't have to hunt together. Good luck to you as well.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Grosvenor]
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11/24/14 04:39 PM
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Like I said, good news is we don't have to hunt together. agreed Good day to you sir.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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11/24/14 04:46 PM
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I used to take 3 or 4 beers with me but don't anymore. Heck, I seldom drink beer now. However, I felt like it was my land and I was the only one there. Or, I certainly better be the only one. The back stop is a fairly good sized hill. And, I still reserve the right to make all the decisions on what I do on my own damn land. Well, my Wife gets in quite a few votes or tries to.
I don't see a whole lot of difference in that and golfers dropping by the 19th hole for a couple of drinks and then driving home. I believe I'm more scared of people who have some drinks and then get behind the wheel. And, admittedly, I used to do that. That there is a fact. I live close to our country club and replace a mailbox about every other year. One sot (whom I know well) actually complained my mailbox was too close to the road. I explained to him that maybe him getting his drunk a** behind the wheel might just be the problem. Sue him
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/24/14 04:47 PM
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I've totalled two Golf Carts so I have no comment..But it was in low light conditions
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: SniperRAB]
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11/24/14 04:52 PM
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I used to take 3 or 4 beers with me but don't anymore. Heck, I seldom drink beer now. However, I felt like it was my land and I was the only one there. Or, I certainly better be the only one. The back stop is a fairly good sized hill. And, I still reserve the right to make all the decisions on what I do on my own damn land. Well, my Wife gets in quite a few votes or tries to.
I don't see a whole lot of difference in that and golfers dropping by the 19th hole for a couple of drinks and then driving home. I believe I'm more scared of people who have some drinks and then get behind the wheel. And, admittedly, I used to do that. That there is a fact. I live close to our country club and replace a mailbox about every other year. One sot (whom I know well) actually complained my mailbox was too close to the road. I explained to him that maybe him getting his drunk a** behind the wheel might just be the problem. Sue him My fees are too high.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/24/14 05:01 PM
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The drinking mindset is strong in America. Just the "cool" thing to do. Witness all the photos a lot of guys take with their beers as the subject.
Took a monumental effort by MADD to get the drinking and driving laws/enforcement to have any teeth. Guys made the same arguments about those too. Made a many Attny's rich
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/24/14 06:39 PM
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I bet you folks don't drink beer when you fish either. THAT IS SO UNSAFE!! you could end up keeping a whole cooler of hardheads for dinner... Whats wrong with eating hardheads?? I make a fine hardhead filet with French fries and a side salad.. eat the fries and salad.. feed the hardhead filets to the cat!!
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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11/25/14 11:32 AM
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I'm of the type that is pretty staunch about "guns and alcohol don't mix" I won't have a single drink while hunting or shooting. I also don't think it's responsible to attempt to shoot an animal bow or gun while intoxicated or drinking. It will do nothing but make it harder to make a good clean shot. Save the alcohol for camp. Actually alcohol calms the nerves and you have a better chance making a steady shot with a few beers in you... I use to have new shooters that couldn't qualify go have a beer or two and come back to try again... all would pass... just don't get plastered and be responsible.. Navasot there are about a jillion studies and YouTube videos that prove that theory to be, uhhh, invalid. Nobody does anything better that requires any level of skill and/or dexterity under the influence. Your folks passed because they concentrated/focused more the second time around and it was not a brand new experience to them. That is pretty common on "re-trys" in any activity. so true when I was a kid we would go skateboard at the abandoned Texas Pipeline Skateboard park that was at Crossview and Richmond in Houston where the stupid post office is now and we could skate over the the gas station and Fondren and Richmond and they would usually sell us beer......even back then when I could pound them down after a beer or two my skating was way worse than before these days when I drink even a couple in spite of my size I am a major lightweight and it makes me want to tinkle on anything and everything like an out of control pack dog.....there would not be a deer in 5 miles of me and I would probably be letting it fly out of the stand window or door as well maybe back at camp if you have critters that are dangerous or stupid coons that get in everything and it is close friends that you trust and that don't engage in machismo talk around the camp fire one person can keep a gun to shoot a coyote or a coon that might wander in or hogs......but no getting it out to look at it or admire it or anything generally guns and alcohol are a one or the other thing for me PS no eating hardheads in my circle...
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/25/14 12:23 PM
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99.9% of the time I'm in a deer stand I'm just watching deer anyway. I do pull the gun up for pig shooting mostly. I did however have a hunting accident while shooting a pig and it was a bad one. Instead of my steady aim that blows the guts outta them and lets them run to the other side of the fence, I had one too many and shot him in the head. No hardheads
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/25/14 12:54 PM
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I read that Larry Kelm, an Aggie linebacker who was part of the wrecking crew that shut down Auburn and Bo Jackson in the Cotton Bowl was killed this weekend in a hunting accident. The news release says that firearms were NOT involved.
Not to jump to conclusions, but my first thought was that alcohol may have played a role. Or not; we'll see....
Edit: I just read that he was in a deer stand that was struck by lightning. So alcohol may not have played a role.
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"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple.....and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/25/14 01:03 PM
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So sorry to hear that Dave. P.S.Started to pack for AZ sheep country. Getting real now.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/25/14 01:05 PM
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I agree that guns and alcohol don't mix together. If your going to drink and handle firearms you need to give some serious thought to what can happen if things don't go according to plan. If your going to do this, I suggest you always do it when your by yourself, that way if you shoot yourself, your the one that has to deal with the outcome if your still alive to do so.
Because I know if I'm the one getting shot by you, there will be no forgiveness because you had some drinks. There are no excuses that are acceptable for a lethal weapon killing or injuring someone. I would sue you for everything you had and then some, or expect my survivors to. Regardless of you being family, or a life long friend. So if your going to do this, accept the risk that comes with the decision. Is it worth it?
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/25/14 01:06 PM
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Over half the people I've ever been in a hunting camp with were only there to get drunk.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/25/14 01:08 PM
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nothing is going to change mindset either way...I will not hunt with anyone that partakes, not even in camp or while in boat fishing. I use to drink just as much as anyone, but never any of the above.
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/25/14 01:10 PM
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Over half the people I've ever been in a hunting camp with were only there to get drunk. Yeah I outgrew the "Look at me, I'm so proud of my beer, watch me get drunk" crowd real quick. So I got my own place.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/25/14 01:34 PM
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So sorry to hear that Dave. P.S.Started to pack for AZ sheep country. Getting real now. What are your hunt dates? Do you have a good spotting scope? You're welcome to borrow my Kowa 82mm Prominar. I also have a 15x60 Docter binocular that must be mounted on a tripod. These are great for the all-day glassing ya'll will do. Be sure and take along a little cushion to sit on while glassing, an "a$$ gasket", as an old guide once described it. Good Luck!
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple.....and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/25/14 01:40 PM
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Doc,
Alcohol was not involved and his oldest son is a member of the forum.
Talent is a gift, character is a decision.
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
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11/25/14 01:45 PM
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Doc,
Alcohol was not involved and his oldest son is a member of the forum. Sad deal A.B. I fear the Lightning, hate it I got caught in Ozona this weekend in it..
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Re: Drinking in the stand?
[Re: Txslobberknocker]
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11/25/14 01:46 PM
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Thanks buddy! I'm leaving 12/7 and we will start hunting 12/10. Hunt is technically scheduled to be over by 21st but Larry says we will go as long as it takes to locate a good ram. He is confident we will accomplish that by the 21st but said we are in for the long haul if need be even if that means hunting till the 23rd and/or coming back after Christmas. I'm taking my Swaro ATS 20-60 scope and 10X42 ELs. Larry says he, Stephanie, and Harry Weeks all have high end optics (including big high power binocs) so I'm thinking we're set there. Thank you for the kind offer though. I've got a thin but tough/packable seat pad but probably going to get me a more substantial one.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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