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I keep getting busted
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10/27/14 01:51 PM
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Kyle Horn
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Whats the deal. it seems like i am continuosly getting busted. even from upwind deer? I am not crazy about scent management, but not careless either. I am wearing clean cloths and sraying down with that stuff that "rutger's says is 99.9% effective." i am either that .1% EVERYTIME or that stuff is bogus. this year i have had deer blow out 3 times already. what am doing wrong.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5381844
10/27/14 02:00 PM
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hook_n_line
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I don't know but my dog covered himself in cow $^!t this weekend. He went everywhere but in the house undetected. Walked right out in the field where deer were feeding and they didn't even care.
Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
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Re: I keep getting busted
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10/27/14 02:03 PM
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Radical1
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If you spray the scent killer stuff and walk straight out to the stand I find that I get busted also. I have to spray my clothes down and then let them hang dry. When I put them on I spray my hands with the scent killer and wring them around let them dry and then start putting on the clothes. I dont know if this helps, but it works for me.
“Life is tough, but it’s tougher if you’re stupid.”
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5381853
10/27/14 02:03 PM
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catslayer
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STOP MOVING SO MUCH, and watch the wind... movement gets you busted more than anything...
Sombody smells like fried borritos...
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
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10/27/14 02:03 PM
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8pointdrop
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Busted by upwind deer at what distance? Are you sure the wind isn't swirling? I don't use any scent control at all and very rarely get busted by upwind deer.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
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10/27/14 02:09 PM
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tShawnB
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Something else is happening if your downwind.
How come everybody I meet is a deer hunting expert?
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
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10/27/14 02:57 PM
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Kyle Horn
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i do smoke, but have for years. i hunt the wind. swirls are possible, but i hunt as consistent of wind direction as i can. thinking about going back to those old school wafers that are "dirt" cover scent. but all things equal this year has been very frustrating by getting busted non stop. thanks for any input and feedback.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5381975
10/27/14 02:59 PM
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stxranchman
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What are you wearing for camo and face cover? Are you in a treestand or groundblind?
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: I keep getting busted
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10/27/14 03:01 PM
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Navasot
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and what did you have for dinner the night before..
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Navasot]
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10/27/14 03:04 PM
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stxranchman
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and what did you have for dinner the night before.. 2 week old chili I heard...
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Re: I keep getting busted
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#5382019
10/27/14 03:14 PM
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Navasot
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and what did you have for dinner the night before.. 2 week old chili I heard... Thatll do it
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382112
10/27/14 03:49 PM
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What all causes deer to blow? I'm about 99.999% positive a doe that blew and ran off this past weekend didn't have anything to do with me. She was up wind from me in an area I hadn't walked through or been anywhere near and she ran my direction.
Her freak out session was enough to spook a spike that was heading right for an arrow to the rib cage, however. So it pissed me off.
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Re: I keep getting busted
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10/27/14 03:53 PM
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Kyle Horn
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with it so hot i have been wearing face paint. 2 deer never saw me. the 3rd deer the next day in another stand, never even got close enough for me to see it. I know its not a sighte thing, has to be their dang nose. I hunt in treestands.
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Re: I keep getting busted
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10/27/14 04:24 PM
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I've seen a doe blow as she was entering a food plot. I'm sitting in the stand and I hear four or five blows about 50 yards away just inside the treeline. Then she appears in the open and was in fact prancing into the food plot. Wasn't alarmed at all.
What clothes/camo are you wearing? What detergent are you using? Does it have optical brighteners?
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Re: I keep getting busted
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10/27/14 04:25 PM
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Willing to bet it's movement or glare. Does will spook when the hair on a gnat's hind end blows in the wind. If you have binos or a range finder the sun might be glaring straight into the deer's eyes.
If you're up wind from a deer scent doesn't matter, as long as the wind isn't swirling.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382211
10/27/14 04:33 PM
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hook_n_line
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Do you have pets? Have you checked around your stand to make sure nobody is jacking with you. We hung a cologne sprayed t-shirts near a buddy's stand once. Mean joke but dang it was funny to hear the story about how the deer would freeze up, blow and haul out right at 47 yards.
Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382214
10/27/14 04:34 PM
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Navasot
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Whats the background like on your stand
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382215
10/27/14 04:34 PM
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Navasot
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and how high is it
Last edited by Navasot; 10/27/14 04:37 PM.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382219
10/27/14 04:35 PM
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If you are getting busted by upwind deer (and the wind is not swirling) then they must be seeing something the do not like. Maybe it's movement or maybe it's a reflection off something you are wearing (like eye glasses)..or perhaps you stand is such that you are being sky lighted.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382305
10/27/14 05:14 PM
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Since you said your a smoker and guessing you smoke in stand, it could be the movement of getting a cig, lighting it and taking drags off it. Im a smoker as well, im in a ground blind and its blacked out well and brushed out well also, hard for a deer to see any movement in my blind. Remember your in their house. I would say its a movement thing
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382365
10/27/14 05:33 PM
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A tip that worked for me. A roll of ductape. Taped up windows all but a 1 inch strip. I have wild deer with super vision.
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
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10/27/14 05:57 PM
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Kyle Horn
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both sets are tree stands. i dont smoke while on stand, near stand, or about to go to stand. i dont wear anything shinny, and i dont wear high dollar camo. i wear alot of stuff from academy or whever it went on clearnace at last february. i have done this for years. one of the does, i got to watch her reaction. it was a scent reaction. must have swirled at her. she stopped in mid stride and put her good ol nose in the air. did the head bob thing in my direction, then ran. stopped about 100 yards away and blew like crazy.
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Re: I keep getting busted
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#5382469
10/27/14 06:17 PM
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8pointdrop
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both sets are tree stands. i dont smoke while on stand, near stand, or about to go to stand. i dont wear anything shinny, and i dont wear high dollar camo. i wear alot of stuff from academy or whever it went on clearnace at last february. i have done this for years. one of the does, i got to watch her reaction. it was a scent reaction. must have swirled at her. she stopped in mid stride and put her good ol nose in the air. did the head bob thing in my direction, then ran. stopped about 100 yards away and blew like crazy. Then you've answered your own question. You'll never fool a deer's nose, I don't care what you wear or do. Now what you need to figure out is how and why you're being winded. Thermals and landscape can swir the wind especially on low wind days. Might have to set up a couple stands per site to have opinions in different winds.
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Re: I keep getting busted
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#5382550
10/27/14 07:02 PM
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Is it possible you’re walking in on the same trail the deer are using? How do you approach your hunting area?
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Re: I keep getting busted
[Re: Kyle Horn]
#5382853
10/27/14 09:09 PM
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Navasot
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nothing wrong with walmart camo I got loads of it lol
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