Forums46
Topics538,270
Posts9,735,110
Members87,077
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
#5274667
08/27/14 03:45 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,981
T Bone
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,981 |
Have a Daniel Defense M4V1 that I've owned for a few years.. Put a fair amount of $$ in to a desert digital cerakote finish, new trigger, etc.. Realized the other day though that I'm just getting bored with the .223/5.56 round & got to thinking about what it would take to change calibers w/out changing uppers.. Perhaps moving to the 6.8 or 6.5?
Obviously need a new barrel & bolt, but is there anything else involved that I've overlooked? Buffer? I hate to try to sell it just to change calibers as I won't get near what I have in it back, & I like the work I've put in it..
Thoughts?
I really hate to do what I am about to do, because it will be very painful for you.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5274676
08/27/14 03:49 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,776
NTXBowfisher
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,776 |
build a new upper for whatever caliber you want and keep 5.56, switching back and forth is a pain parts wise. start fresh with a new stripped upper, you can even get it coated to match the lower. my $.02
signature coming soon
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5274693
08/27/14 04:01 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,981
T Bone
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,981 |
Don't know how well I could get the colors to match though.. What to do, what to do..
I really hate to do what I am about to do, because it will be very painful for you.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5274709
08/27/14 04:06 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 26,222
KRoyal
Texoma Legend
|
Texoma Legend
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 26,222 |
To change to 300BLK all you'll need is a barrel change.
To change to any other caliber that will fit the lower you'll need different mags, bolt, and barrel.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5275314
08/27/14 10:11 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,519
tannerlst
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,519 |
Swap barrels and slowly build another rifle with the .223 barrel
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5275452
08/27/14 11:42 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,179
Tactical Cowboy
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,179 |
Shoot .223, cause it's the best in the AR.
The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: KRoyal]
#5275575
08/28/14 12:54 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,062
Toxarch
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,062 |
To change to 300BLK all you'll need is a barrel change.
To change to any other caliber that will fit the lower you'll need different mags, bolt, and barrel. ^this. .223 is probably the cheapest ammo to shoot unless maybe you do the 22LR conversion. 300blk would be the easiest and cheapest swap over. And it's a good round. An awesome round if you plan to suppress it.
It is far more important to be able to hit the target than it is to haggle over who makes a weapon or who pulls a trigger.
� Dwight D. Eisenhower
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5275576
08/28/14 12:54 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,658
GusWayne
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,658 |
I'd keep the 556 and just buy another upper in 6.8 if it were me
Rig it with your preferred glass and you're good to go.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5275601
08/28/14 01:05 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 435
rvrrat14
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 435 |
6.8 is it!!!!!!!! Now the #2 most popular AR caliber, behind 5.56. Great hog and deer round.
Barrel, bolt, mag. I'd build another upper complete and swap um out. I've got 5.56 and 6.8.
The 6.8 is hard to beat.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5275663
08/28/14 01:48 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,069
MDMORROW
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,069 |
Go for a blackout. Everything stays the same except the barrel. My Daniel defense m4v5 became a 300 black sbr and it's great.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5276192
08/28/14 01:51 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 329
bside
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 329 |
What is your goal? (why has nobody asked that question?)
Do you want an SPR (long range)?
Do you want to hunt with it? Hunt what?
Any desire to SBR?
Desired barrel length?
If you want a 14.5-16" rifle, want a capable platform to shoot out to 600, kill deer at normal ranges? Go with 6.8 SPC (ar15performance is a GREAT place to pick up a barrel in this caliber if in stock).
If you want a dedicated long range platform 20+", capable of shooting 1k? .264LBC/6.5 Grendel
If you want to reuse all your 5.56 brass, enhance the hunting capability of the platform, use the same mags/bolt/everything but barrel? .300BLK. Moreso if you're thinking subsonic loads and a can.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: Toxarch]
#5277992
08/29/14 05:20 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,115
target1911
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,115 |
To change to 300BLK all you'll need is a barrel change.
To change to any other caliber that will fit the lower you'll need different mags, bolt, and barrel. ^this. .223 is probably the cheapest ammo to shoot unless maybe you do the 22LR conversion. 300blk would be the easiest and cheapest swap over. And it's a good round. An awesome round if you plan to suppress it. Not entirely true. If you reload there are other options. One being the 270 wolverine. Its a wildcat round but in the works for factory ammo. It uses the 556/223 case and the 6.8 bullet. They are getting up to 2800fps with the 85gr pill. Producing about 90% of the 6.8 specs Mad dog weapon systems is the developer and barrels are ARP. there's a ton of info on the 68forums about it. Only needs a barrel swap..uses regular pmags and 556 bolt
"A good life is never too short" My Dad
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5278202
08/29/14 01:28 PM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 404
sactoller
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 404 |
Build a new upper in 6x45. I doubt anyone will care whether your camo pattern matches.
|
|
|
Re: Does this make any sense.. AR caliber change ?
[Re: T Bone]
#5278290
08/29/14 02:16 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,179
Tactical Cowboy
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,179 |
Or start shooting 3 Gun. Then you will sell all your other goodies, and have more fun with what you keep.
The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|