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 Re: Buying first deer rifle
[Re: redchevy]
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08/13/14 05:35 PM
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Make all the fun you want, in hunting the same amount of time with a 270, 280 and 223 I have had several soft point cup and core bullets fail to pass through a deer and not leave them dead on the spot from shock. I have never had the 223/ 60 grain partition fail to pass through under the same conditions from the same blinds/feeders etc.
Not calling a 3030 sub par, but neither is a 243 and to me it is much more versatile. its no secret bigger bullets leave bigger holes i can even agree on this. only thing a harder boolit does is leave a smaller hole for said caliber, theres no magic in bonded bullets, they just dont expand as well as a cup and core and thats why you get exits with them. the best expansion of a 243 is around .45 a 30-30 is right at .65. the 243 is already tiny id rather use something that expands well over an exit wound but thats me. im not calling the 243 sub par, i just think the 30-30 is better at 100 yds or so, it leaves bigger holes plain and simple.
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Re: Buying first deer rifle
[Re: Bobvilla]
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08/13/14 05:39 PM
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Ive seen much larger exits than what the diameter of the mushroomed bullet was. Seen many exits you can stick your fist in and that bullet didn't expand to 4-5 inches in diameter.
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Re: Buying first deer rifle
[Re: Bobvilla]
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08/13/14 05:46 PM
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Savage 110 Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor or Savage 111 Lightweight Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor.
Why the 6.5 Creedmoor? Because it can do it all, I understand today you need the rifle to shoot short ranges, but if tomorrow the rifle needs to shoot 300+ yards the 6.5 Creedmoor can do it without skipping a beat. Also, recoil is very manageable, I would not get the 30-06 because recoil is pretty intense.
You want a rifle you will shoot often that way you will become very accurate with it.
Other calibers to consider:
243 (what I shoot)
260 Rem
7mm-08
308 Win.
Forgot to add, Talley Scope Rings and Vortex glass (whatever you can afford).
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Re: Buying first deer rifle
[Re: Bobvilla]
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08/13/14 05:57 PM
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I'm fairly new to whitetail deer hunting (this will be my 3rd season). Up until now I've been borrowing a Savage 243 but I'm hooked and it's time to invest in my own gun. I've done a lot of reading online about arguments between caliber, etc. but most of it isn't that helpful because people are so biased on their fav. caliber and usually get side tracked with "all deer run", or "you have to make a good shot", or "use a 7 mag and it won't run", etc. My stand is 75-100 yards, I'll never be an expert marksman or need to hunt at 300 yards, etc. Basically I'm looking for something that has a lot of ammo options and I don't want to chase a deer real far with a well placed shot. So far I've been leaning towards a used bolt-action Savage 30-06 (about $500) but I'm open to suggestions since I'm only shooting from 100 yards in an open pasture (with woods behind the feeder).
I like supporting American jobs so I prefer made in USA. As for budget I'm willing to spend as much as $1,000 on the gun alone but honestly I'm looking for a great gun at a reasonable price. Also, I'm a wood stock kind of guy. I'm not a huge fan of the black or green synthetics.
Thanks in advance. Do you think you will always be hunting at those ranges or hunting just white tails? If you're gonna be a "one gun" hunter you might want to plan for the time when you get on a lease with longer shots or maybe, just maybe that time when a good old Elk hunt comes along...... IMHO there's a lot of choices out there, but there is not a thing wrong with a good old 30.06 or .270 and a 30-30 is just something that everyone ought to have.
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Re: Buying first deer rifle
[Re: Bobvilla]
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08/16/14 06:48 PM
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Remington model 710. Chambered in 270 with the with a Bushnell 3x9. Use remington core lokt 150 grain. I have had this rifle for 10 years and have not had a single issue with it. Everything I've shot was dropped with one shot. A lot of people say the 710 is highly in accurate, but I think they say that due to it being a "budget" rifle. I haven't had to track a animal after shooting it and I've made shots past 250yrds. That's my .02 happy hunting bud! 
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Re: Buying first deer rifle
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08/16/14 10:45 PM
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gotta love the 7mm rem mag.
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Re: Buying first deer rifle
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08/19/14 02:55 PM
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Most every caliber has lots of projectile options from brand name manufacturers to fit most any hunting application. Choose one that fits most of your hunting needs. Don't get hung up on American made. Purchase one that fits you, your style, your needs. No deer ever killed by a hunter cared abut the caliber, whether it was American made, whether it was wood or synthetic stock, a blued or stainless barrel or whether the bullet stopped inside or passed through. Don't give unnecessary weight to what your buddies will think or whether you are bucking tradition. The only things that matter are whether it kills deer ethically and whether you'll shoot it often and accurately.
Everyone dies. Not everyone really lives.
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