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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/08/14 04:27 PM
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KRoyal
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Yes the Glock is thicker, really hope Glock will finally come out with a single stack 9/40 soon.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: KRoyal]
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08/08/14 04:53 PM
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cyphertext
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Yes the Glock is thicker, really hope Glock will finally come out with a single stack 9/40 soon. I've about given up on them... Even if they produce one at this point, I may not get one. I've purchased other guns to fill that role.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/08/14 04:59 PM
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TexasWoodrow
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S&W Shield w/o thumb safety XDs Kahr PM9
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/09/14 12:34 AM
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huntwest
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Walther P99 Also just now coming out is the Walther CCP I got to shoot one at a industry shoot a couple weeks ago. It is a great carry gun.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/09/14 03:57 PM
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Chickenman
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If she's comfortable shooting a 45acp, have her try/shoot a XDS. You're welcome to borrow mine for a week or so.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/10/14 12:42 AM
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luv2brode
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i am cancelling my subscription, i am tired of your issues!
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/10/14 02:30 AM
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blackcoal
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The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Colt W. Knight]
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08/10/14 03:17 AM
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TXHOGSLAYER
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I own a Ruger LCP, and the trigger was very manageable. I heard a lot of stuff about how awful the trigger was, and I found those claims to be greatly exaggerated. I took a few female friends shooting, and they both loved the LCP. I am able to hit clay pigeons sitting on the ground at 7 yards with this pistol. For a close up self defense pistol, I don't think you need to be any more accurate than that. It is so small, it comfortably fits in my pocket. Those ladies must be better than me because I hated the trigger pull on the LCP. Trigger pull was all day and quite snappy to boot.
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: cyphertext]
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08/10/14 12:53 PM
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kry226
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When I put them on my buddy had just bought the S&W Shield. We compared them on top of each other and the Glock was barely longer with the extension installed. Without it the Glock actually has a shorter grip than the Shield does. Yes, without the extension, the G26/27 grip is shorter than the Shield. But that is my point... once you add the grip extension, you are giving up the "advantage" of the G26/27. Respectfully disagree. The G26/27 comes from the factory disadvantaged, and the Pearce extension makes the gun usable. Only the smallest hands can shoot a G26/27 without extension and even with them installed, you still have a smaller footprint than the compact frame G19. I couldn't imagine shooting even the mild 9mm with only a middle and ring finger gripping the gun. Not only would I be able to engage a target better, but I'll also be able to control the gun better should my assailant try to take the gun away from me...should I allow him to get that close.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/10/14 01:06 PM
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ImTheReasonDovesMourn
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Kahr CW series if you're on a budget, PM series if you're big ballin'. My wife and stepdaughter, both of my sisters, my nieces.... basically every female in my family, prefer shooting my Kahrs. I personally love my XDS, but the ladies don't agree.
Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: kry226]
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08/11/14 06:58 PM
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cyphertext
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When I put them on my buddy had just bought the S&W Shield. We compared them on top of each other and the Glock was barely longer with the extension installed. Without it the Glock actually has a shorter grip than the Shield does. Yes, without the extension, the G26/27 grip is shorter than the Shield. But that is my point... once you add the grip extension, you are giving up the "advantage" of the G26/27. Respectfully disagree. The G26/27 comes from the factory disadvantaged, and the Pearce extension makes the gun usable. Only the smallest hands can shoot a G26/27 without extension and even with them installed, you still have a smaller footprint than the compact frame G19. I couldn't imagine shooting even the mild 9mm with only a middle and ring finger gripping the gun. Not only would I be able to engage a target better, but I'll also be able to control the gun better should my assailant try to take the gun away from me...should I allow him to get that close. The whole point of having the shorter grip is that it is easier to conceal. The overall length of the G26/G27 makes it too big for pocket carry for me, so I would carry it on a belt, either IWB or OWB. With those modes of carry, the difference in length between a G26/G27 vs a G19/23 doesn't matter. The thickness is the same between both frames, so that is moot as well. The only difference that would make it easier to conceal would be the shorter grip of the G26/27. If I am adding an extension that makes the grip longer on a G26/G27, I might as well carry the G23 with 5 more rounds available. My current pocket carry gun is a Sig P290RS. It is very controllable with only the middle and ring finger on the grip. I fold my pinky under the magazine. The height of the Sig is 3.9" compared to 4.17" of the Glock G26/27, and it is about an inch shorter in length, and is also thinner. Fits in most of my pockets well, with 6+1 capacity being the disadvantage when compared to the G26/G27. I'm still searching for that "perfect" carry gun. So far, it has all been compromises.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/11/14 08:05 PM
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Baylor_Bears
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Ive got both a sig p238 and a G26. I prefer the glock, but the 238 surprised me with its accuracy.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: cyphertext]
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08/11/14 11:16 PM
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kry226
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When I put them on my buddy had just bought the S&W Shield. We compared them on top of each other and the Glock was barely longer with the extension installed. Without it the Glock actually has a shorter grip than the Shield does. Yes, without the extension, the G26/27 grip is shorter than the Shield. But that is my point... once you add the grip extension, you are giving up the "advantage" of the G26/27. Respectfully disagree. The G26/27 comes from the factory disadvantaged, and the Pearce extension makes the gun usable. Only the smallest hands can shoot a G26/27 without extension and even with them installed, you still have a smaller footprint than the compact frame G19. I couldn't imagine shooting even the mild 9mm with only a middle and ring finger gripping the gun. Not only would I be able to engage a target better, but I'll also be able to control the gun better should my assailant try to take the gun away from me...should I allow him to get that close. The whole point of having the shorter grip is that it is easier to conceal. The overall length of the G26/G27 makes it too big for pocket carry for me, so I would carry it on a belt, either IWB or OWB. With those modes of carry, the difference in length between a G26/G27 vs a G19/23 doesn't matter. The thickness is the same between both frames, so that is moot as well. The only difference that would make it easier to conceal would be the shorter grip of the G26/27. If I am adding an extension that makes the grip longer on a G26/G27, I might as well carry the G23 with 5 more rounds available. My current pocket carry gun is a Sig P290RS. It is very controllable with only the middle and ring finger on the grip. I fold my pinky under the magazine. The height of the Sig is 3.9" compared to 4.17" of the Glock G26/27, and it is about an inch shorter in length, and is also thinner. Fits in most of my pockets well, with 6+1 capacity being the disadvantage when compared to the G26/G27. I'm still searching for that "perfect" carry gun. So far, it has all been compromises. No such thing. It will always be a compromise in one form or another. The correct holster makes all the "carry" difference though.
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/11/14 11:30 PM
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Big Fitz
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I've got the S&W Shield in 40 and the Bodyguard in 380 with built in laser. I like both but if you are looking for the ultimate in concealment, I'd go with the Bodyguard. As others have mentioned, you are welcome to borrow mine to try out and see what she prefers.
I was wrong...on anything technical. Fitz............. is right, ya know............
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: cyphertext]
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09/11/14 02:30 AM
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When I put them on my buddy had just bought the S&W Shield. We compared them on top of each other and the Glock was barely longer with the extension installed. Without it the Glock actually has a shorter grip than the Shield does. Yes, without the extension, the G26/27 grip is shorter than the Shield. But that is my point... once you add the grip extension, you are giving up the "advantage" of the G26/27. Respectfully disagree. The G26/27 comes from the factory disadvantaged, and the Pearce extension makes the gun usable. Only the smallest hands can shoot a G26/27 without extension and even with them installed, you still have a smaller footprint than the compact frame G19. I couldn't imagine shooting even the mild 9mm with only a middle and ring finger gripping the gun. Not only would I be able to engage a target better, but I'll also be able to control the gun better should my assailant try to take the gun away from me...should I allow him to get that close. The whole point of having the shorter grip is that it is easier to conceal. The overall length of the G26/G27 makes it too big for pocket carry for me, so I would carry it on a belt, either IWB or OWB. With those modes of carry, the difference in length between a G26/G27 vs a G19/23 doesn't matter. The thickness is the same between both frames, so that is moot as well. The only difference that would make it easier to conceal would be the shorter grip of the G26/27. If I am adding an extension that makes the grip longer on a G26/G27, I might as well carry the G23 with 5 more rounds available. My current pocket carry gun is a Sig P290RS. It is very controllable with only the middle and ring finger on the grip. I fold my pinky under the magazine. The height of the Sig is 3.9" compared to 4.17" of the Glock G26/27, and it is about an inch shorter in length, and is also thinner. Fits in most of my pockets well, with 6+1 capacity being the disadvantage when compared to the G26/G27. I'm still searching for that "perfect" carry gun. So far, it has all been compromises. why shoot the bigger P290RS, when the smaller P938 has the same capacity??
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Re: Smaller framed semi autos
[Re: Mfloski]
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09/11/14 03:42 AM
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cyphertext
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why shoot the bigger P290RS, when the smaller P938 has the same capacity??
The P938 is longer than the P290RS, so it doesn't fit in a pocket as well. The height and width is the same on both models. The 290RS is a little heavier. So, I don't see the P938 as smaller. Also, I prefer to not have a safety. The P938 is a single action, designed to be cocked and locked. I prefer the DAO trigger of the P290RS.
Last edited by cyphertext; 09/11/14 03:42 AM.
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