I don't know if I fully get the question. The ones that are HD do not have SD generally. The mini DVR industry seems to be one or the other, with SD slowly going away. Which makes sense. If I were these NV companies I would do one of two things. I would offer the new scopes in HD with an HDMI output for recording (no games, meaning no sensing in order to sell a proprietary recorder) or I would have the scope record in HD to memory (No SD) and have a built in mic. Give me a red button on top to depress and record. Keep it simple. No wi-fi, because it doesn't work right for hunting. No GPS or other techie whistles and bells. That's just me.

ATN and Armasight seem to be migrating to this stupid 8 pin plug. The only thing I can get from that is that this has to be coming from the same engineer. No one in their right mind would use that thing. I don't think you will see it on the X-Sight, but it just came out on the Thors (and mounted wrong) and it was already on the Zues and Drone Pro (also mounted wrong).

I think the price of the HD units could come in under 200 bucks, but that will be up to the dealers. Margins can get tight, particularly with low volume.

The MDVR that Bearclaw has is the best I have seen yet for the current scopes. If you are planning on an X-Sight I wouldn't do anything until we know what they have finally settled on. I would be surprised if it has actually gone into production at this point.

Jun/July 2014 is what they told me as best case, I.e. No 1st gen bugs to work out.

For DIYs like me check out this guys videos.
https://www.youtube.com/user/RolaidsBench/videos

I built mine based on his NV1.0 video.
It projects the light with a powerful small infrared flashlight, which picks up the image through a small sony video camera the size of a cigar lighter set right at the scope eyepiece and then projects to a small 5" video screen all w/ 12volts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wnNFR99xGI

I had a lot of fun with this. The advantage is you are using your existing scope to get the image so you don't have to pay for the fancy optics on one piece NV scopes. I could see hogs at over 8x power out past 250yds in pitch black. Minimal cost will be less than $350. Of course I started with a Nikon Monarch 50mm, which is a big help in sensitivity.

Thanks! This has absolutely nothing to do with the ATN X-Sight

There are some DIY threads in either the Optics or Hog Hunting forums, you can start a separate thread for that as I do appreciate the DIY scene.

If you start your own thread I would ask a question like this about the Rolaids Bench setup

There are 6 hours worth of videos on his channel but I don't find a single one that demonstrates use on 223 or higher weapons.

Can you enlighten me on how you mount a rig such as the one in your post and how does it handle repeated abuse in the field.

Thanks

You're right. Sorry.
I jumped in out of place. misread thinking someone was interested in DIY
I had my setup on a .243 with a bipod. Soft recoil

The off the shelf scopes do not compare to what the DIY projects are using in terms of sensitivity and range, the consumer pays for the convenience of a product that is housed and mates to weapons in a somewhat streamlined design.

As I said I have respect for the DIY scene and would like to see your posts outside of the X-sight one

Yes, I will post this somewhere else and maybe can offer some tips to anyone interested...

Here is a post I read on another forum, by an ATN representative

Sir,
We appreciate your enthusiasm for the X-sight and we are just as excited about it as you are.
We know the anticipation for this unit and technology is very high. Due to this we are making sure that we are taking our time and running all facets of the unit through strenuous QA and testing. Our engineers are working diligently to providing the best quality and user experience that we can.
This is also why we have not released any video recorded through the system yet. We are still updating and expanding the user interface. Any video now would not represent the finalized product. We most likely will not release any video until final production and firmware are complete.
We appreciate your business and respectfully request that you be a little more patient with us as we bring this exciting new technology to market.
Thank you,
ATN

We were told last night at the night vision gtg that the 5 - 18X is coming mid-June and the 3 - 12X is coming mid-July. This was OK'd for circulation by an ATN rep. Lets see how it works out... Meeting dates has not been a hallmark so far...

BTW, the gtg was awesome. Several company reps and dealers with lots of product to handle. FLIR, Armasight, ATN, Pulsar, etc...

That's a salesman stall if I ever heard one. I've been waiting on these for quite a while now too but I may just have to go to the N750 if these aren't widely released by September.

Salesman stall? You think it is limited to the salesmen? LOL.

I'm waiting on one as well.

I honestly don't think anyone there has a clue when the first ship date will be. They will go when they are in the box and the truck has left the building.

Well, they should be shipping in just a few days if ATN's Sachal was true to his word. He was confident that mid just would be the ship date for the 5x X-sights. Let's see what will happen...

I might finally be able to afford a good night vision!!! Just learned about this today.

Added it to my watched topics. Hope it actually is good like they say.

I am not even sure they exist.

August/September time frame now per ATN. I did an online chat with them to ask and that is the answer i got

Really, I emailed with Sachal Baig,an ATN rep and he says they have 200 units inbound and will ship very soon.

Does that means it will happen? I don't know, but that is what he said.

I hope you're right! That's just what I was told on their online chat thing

It must be real because it is in the new Cabela's catalog...

Last I was told was 5x would ship late July, 3x end of August

With all the recent rain, I thought it might produce the right circumstances for a spotting of the X-sight.

Sounds pretty amazing!!! And the price is perfect!!! Hope it lives up to the hype.

Thank you for answering these questions, I have added follow up questions or statements referenced in RED.



ALL THE ABOVE is certainly subject to change and until we see it released for sale - - - it is purely THEORETICAL