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I see people spend a forune on cammo and when it comes down to it you got to wear orange hunter vest, orange hed gear and the cammo turns out to be just a waste of money, (but you do look good til you don the safety gear.) save your money and wear some sensible blue denim under that most deer cant see the difference anyway. the price of cammo will get you another good hunting rifle. and just as good results.I have killed many a good buck wearing just my blue denims and save lots of money, I dont pay attention o hunting magazines and their "experts' they are only out to make a buck and sell you something. 
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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11/26/08 07:50 AM
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Cammo is so cool.
I wear a black hoody in my pop ups. Also I figure I look like a black cow walking across the pasture to the blind If I walk slow:)
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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When folks ask me what type of camo I recommend when coming out for a javelina hunt, I tell them whichever pattern will make them feel most comfortable in camp.   I can really understand folks wearing a lot of camo when bow hunting, even though Fred Bear did it for a long time and quite successfully I might add before there was camo clothing. But rifle hunters, setting in an enclosed blind 100 to 150 yards away from a feeder. For turkey hunting and waterfowl hunting I can definitely see needing camo. For rifle hunters it is a fashion statement pure and simple. JMO.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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11/26/08 01:06 PM
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I disagree to a certain extent. Yesterday morning I was sitting against the base of a cedar, expecting the bucks to come out about 100 yds away. Luckily I was in camo, because 3 does walked out just 10 ft away (luckily upwind). I kept still, and they didn't even suspect I was there-so they didn't spook and ruin my morning hunt prematurely.
You're right, camo does little good at rifle ranges, but I encounter enough situations like this to keep on using it.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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11/26/08 02:02 PM
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Disagreeing is fine as we have all had differing experiences, I have stood in the middle of a pasture road in a white "T" shirt and blue jeans and shot a doe off hand at about 70 yards that was standing watchimng me walk down the road.
Just from my experience, as long as you were still and upwind, those deer were not going to notice you anyway, unless you would have been dressed in an all white outfit.
Dressed in dark colored clothes and setting or standing against a dark background makes a person almost invisible to animals.
Animals, with few exceptions actually see colors, they do see differences between light and dark.
Working the wind, and being still are two of the most important things a hunter can do, regardless of the clothing they are wearing. JMO.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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Camo serves two functions....concealment and style. When I'm varmit, duck or walk/stalk hunting I feel it is somewhat necessary. For me camo is my hunting clothes so I will also wear it in the blind as well (part of the gear). Years ago hunters didn't wear camo, use scopes and utilize all the new technology stuff but they still were successful. Choice is a wonderful thing.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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When I was deer hunting up in Minnesota.. in Blaze orange coveralls. I had 3 deer walk right next (5-10 feet) to me with my back against a tree. never saw me ..I didn't shoot as they were does and i only had a buck tag.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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11/26/08 03:59 PM
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Well I wear camo, because I can't find any other warm clothes that serve the function for me. I could care less about the patterns, I just want something that is warm and comfortable. And yes on warm days I hunt in blue jeans and a T shirt.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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This summer me and my son-in-law were hunkered down in some tall grass waiting to ambush some wild hogs. At dawn, 4 whitetails came in and grazed right up to us. They saw us for sure, but we stayed still. The checked us both out extensively, but hung around for about a half hour, sometimes within 10 feet. I was in full camo and my son-in-law in jeans and a yellow "hoodie". We were down wind, and they paid him no more attention than me. I still wear the camo, though, because I like it. Sorry for the long answer.
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In my short 2 year experience as a hunter, I can say I have had deer come within 20 feet of me while wearing blue jeans and a black t-shirt, and i have had deer spot me while fully camo'd and run off even though I was totally motionless.
Just like wind, where i have seen and shot deer on windy and calm days, I feel it's a toss up.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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Wearing camo is fine if that is what a person wants to do, the beauty of living in America and the Freedom of Personal Choice in such things. To me, camo is one of those things that if it makes a person a more confident hunter, that is great. I don't use the stuff that much, but I do have some camo and at times I will wear it. I guess one of the BIGGIES that turned me away from camo is shows like the Hunters Extravaganza. Folks wandering around trying to see who can out camo who, but if that is what floats a persons boat than hit the water. Personally, I will stick with using the wind and being able to be still as my camo. JMO. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone And Be Safe If You Are Traveling.  
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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One, I don't where hunter orange and two, I have never worn a pear of blue jeans that kept me warm all day outside hunting.
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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I wear hunter orange in the national forest because I have to. I have a camo jacket that I wear if it is cold but I usually just wear blue jeans and a dark shirt under the hunter orange if it isn't too cold. Something just to cover up my arms so the color doesn't stick out. Same thing for my face. I do wear a camo facemask to keep my face from shining amongst the trees. Carhart overalls work well where I hunt because the material goes through briar patches very well.
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I wear camo since those are my hunting clothes and don't care about them getting torn and dirty. I also like to get out of the blind and stalk a little if nothing is moving. I don't like ripping up my work clothes like jeans and slacks on stickers and stuff. If it is hot though, I am wearing shorts, tennis shoes to the blind and a dark shirt.
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Same here Txduckman
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Well.... I do like my camo. It's the same as liking certain types of clothes to work in etc. My wife says I have too many green shirts, I like green! My camo consists of brown wranglers and a camo shirt and cap. I think it helps, but don't care if it doesn't. I like it. As far as orange goes, the deer don't seem to notice that color from what I can tell, but that won't keep me from wearing my camo coat under my vest. It's a hunting coat, and to get the features I want in a hunting coat, it's a given that it will be some type of camo!
I could drive foreign import car to work too-my boss won't know the difference as long as I'm there on time! Guess what! I drive what I like instead...
"Providence protects children and idiots. I know because I have tested it" -Mark Twain
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Re: cammoing up amd then having to cover up with hunter safety orane
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i wore camo but in military, got one camo hoodie but got it for christmas last year, usally i where , when cold cahart insulated coveralls, i believe deer are color blind , all u need is to make sure where your sitting you break up your outline, but most of time deer that ive hunted dont know what a outline of a human looks like they just dont like your smell.......
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don't wear hunters orange....I think Camo is a must when bowhunting in west texas due to the lack of tall trees,,,had to hid in a 10 mequite tree in december....
if you are riffle hunting in a box, jeans, tees shirts coats, birthday suit, what ever it dont matter
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haha..birthday suit. 
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I see people spend a forune on cammo and when it comes down to it you got to wear orange hunter vest, orange hed gear and the cammo turns out to be just a waste of money, (but you do look good til you don the safety gear.) save your money and wear some sensible blue denim under that most deer cant see the difference anyway. the price of cammo will get you another good hunting rifle. and just as good results.I have killed many a good buck wearing just my blue denims and save lots of money, I dont pay attention o hunting magazines and their "experts' they are only out to make a buck and sell you something.
camo.....not cammo i never wear hunter orange. i do wear camo when i bow hunt, which is always!
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Deer aren't completely color blind. The wavelengths of light that they can see compared to us are just shifted to the right on the color spectrum. We can see red,orange,yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet on the spectrum. To a deer, red, yellow, orange, and green look very similar. They can see blue, indigo, violet, and into the UV spectrum. Bluejeans, especially washed in regular laundry soap with UV brighteners would stand out to a deer much more than blaze orange. This link explains it better. http://home.comcast.net/~gefferts/deervis.htm
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Don't forget that blaze orange is practically useless in darkness. For that reason, I always carry a flashlight when walking to and from my stand, even on private land.
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Deer aren't completely color blind. The wavelengths of light that they can see compared to us are just shifted to the right on the color spectrum. We can see red,orange,yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet on the spectrum. To a deer, red, yellow, orange, and green look very similar. They can see blue, indigo, violet, and into the UV spectrum. Bluejeans, especially washed in regular laundry soap with UV brighteners would stand out to a deer much more than blaze orange.
This link explains it better.
http://home.comcast.net/~gefferts/deervis.htm
I think they are testing our vision on that page...ouch! It hurts my eyes to read it! 
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So what your saying is that all of the deer/antelope/elk and other assorted critters I have killed were just stupid, because they should have seen me, because I was wearing blue jeans and in many cases blaze orange at the same time??? Sorry, I don't trust studies like that, sort of like the ones the company that was selling the scent-loc clothing did. If I am not mistaken a law suit was filed and won over such a study. I could be wrong, but usually such studies as that one are funded by someone trying to market a product. JMO. Happy Thanksgiving.
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