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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/17/14 05:34 PM
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OldTexan
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If it was me and I could afford both leases, I'd do it for one year with an option to see what it was like firsthand.....Don't like it, you still have the 100 acre. It goes well, you move....
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: 13cam13]
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01/17/14 06:22 PM
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Im with LP. There will likely be plenty of deer for the 7 hunters to shoot, but a small number are going to be going after "trophy" bucks, the rest will be shooting management/cull bucks and does. The acreage just wont support enough trophy deer. The problem is going to come when every hunter shoots the biggest buck they see and the lease turns into a 1000 acres overrun with does and nothing but bucks that are too young/small for anyone to consider shooting. Yeah I totally agree about trophy deer to management deer on a 1000 acre property. I am just seeing it as that I have a better opportunity to harvest bigger and better bucks with a decent management in place vs a 100 acres. I have read that Jim Hogg hunting is improving and getting just as good as webb county. I just wanted to hear some feedback from hunters on this forum. your right, your odds of harvesting a trophy theoretically are better on 1000 acres than 100 acres. I'd say give it a go
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/17/14 11:23 PM
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Im with LP. There will likely be plenty of deer for the 7 hunters to shoot, but a small number are going to be going after "trophy" bucks, the rest will be shooting management/cull bucks and does. The acreage just wont support enough trophy deer. The problem is going to come when every hunter shoots the biggest buck they see and the lease turns into a 1000 acres overrun with does and nothing but bucks that are too young/small for anyone to consider shooting. Yeah I totally agree about trophy deer to management deer on a 1000 acre property. I am just seeing it as that I have a better opportunity to harvest bigger and better bucks with a decent management in place vs a 100 acres. I have read that Jim Hogg hunting is improving and getting just as good as webb county. I just wanted to hear some feedback from hunters on this forum. your right, your odds of harvesting a trophy theoretically are better on 1000 acres than 100 acres. I'd say give it a go Trying to get 7 hunters all on the same page is where the challenge will be!
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/18/14 01:29 AM
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13cam13
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Im with LP. There will likely be plenty of deer for the 7 hunters to shoot, but a small number are going to be going after "trophy" bucks, the rest will be shooting management/cull bucks and does. The acreage just wont support enough trophy deer. The problem is going to come when every hunter shoots the biggest buck they see and the lease turns into a 1000 acres overrun with does and nothing but bucks that are too young/small for anyone to consider shooting. Yeah I totally agree about trophy deer to management deer on a 1000 acre property. I am just seeing it as that I have a better opportunity to harvest bigger and better bucks with a decent management in place vs a 100 acres. I have read that Jim Hogg hunting is improving and getting just as good as webb county. I just wanted to hear some feedback from hunters on this forum. your right, your odds of harvesting a trophy theoretically are better on 1000 acres than 100 acres. I'd say give it a go Trying to get 7 hunters all on the same page is where the challenge will be! Yeah I was thinking the same. I'm pretty strict and stubborn when I tell my dad what route I suggest to walk to the blind or when to fill the feeders. The 100 acres is perfect because I control the amount of hunting pressure i put on the deer and which deer we consider shooters, but can't control the neighbors once they cross in and out of the property.
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: 13cam13]
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01/18/14 01:48 AM
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Coronado, I hunt not far from you between Aguilares and San Ygnacio and I have to say, over the years I've seen and heard of more/nicer deer coming out of the Oilton/Bruni/Mirando City area than South of Hebronville. You're already not far from Hebronville, directionally are you close to the municipal airport by chance? Unless you're looking for more company/camaraderie and possibly attitudes to manage, I'd personally stay put, especially since you've indicated pretty nice bucks taken. If you've seen/harvested nice ones on the 100 acres, there's better ones yet to be seen IMO.
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/18/14 02:23 AM
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Coronado, I hunt not far from you between Aguilares and San Ygnacio and I have to say, over the years I've seen and heard of more/nicer deer coming out of the Oilton/Bruni/Mirando City area than South of Hebronville. You're already not far from Hebronville, directionally are you close to the municipal airport by chance? Unless you're looking for more company/camaraderie and possibly attitudes to manage, I'd personally stay put, especially since you've indicated pretty nice bucks taken. If you've seen/harvested nice ones on the 100 acres, there's better ones yet to be seen IMO. My dad actually has a friend that hunts in that exact location between aguilares and san ygnacio. Beautiful bucks in that area. I'm pretty close to the airport. I'm about a mile from the Bruni checkpoint and right off the highway 359. Are you still in webb county or cross into Zapata?
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/18/14 02:26 AM
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DQ Kid
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Zapata county, off the dirt road near the old Bruni pastures and a few miles from the East ranch..
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/18/14 02:33 AM
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How many years have you hunted down there, and how many acres are you hunting if you don't mind me asking? Hopefully I can scout the 1000 acres pretty soon and make a decision on what I will do.
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: 13cam13]
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01/18/14 02:40 AM
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Nearly 700 acres, 30-35 years, basically a family lease with my Dad, myself occasionally, and two brothers. Lots, lots of deer in the 130-150 range with bigger seen, though rarely shot. Bigger for good reason...
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: 13cam13]
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01/18/14 03:01 AM
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That's awesome. Our genetics are not as good as that. We saw many 120's and a couple 130-135. However most of the bucks were 3.5 and younger. Only had one that was atleast 5.5 and my dad took it out. THe deer population is crazy though. At one point before the season we counted atleast 16 different bucks coming to the feeders in a week span.
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: 13cam13]
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01/18/14 03:06 AM
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I exactly know where you're at near the checkpoint before the airport. Are you on the left or right side of 359 going to Hebronville? Honestly, sounds like you have a pretty sweet setup on the 100 acres. Like I said, if you want more camaraderie then I'd do it, otherwise, I'd be inclined to stay with what you have. To find productive small acreage which has not been high fenced out is rare down there as I'm guessing you know. You ever get into LaLa's in Mirando City? Some really good hunting going through Mirando back into those hills past town too. Gets to be quite sandy though.
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/18/14 09:11 PM
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A good buddy of mine is an offshore fishing guide. Prior to that he was a pro bass angler. He has a saying and I agree, "It's a fool that leaves fish to find fish". With that said, it couldn't hurt to look into the 1000 acre place. It might be better, might not. You'll never know until you look. Good luck.
Mike Buda, Tx Hunt near Freer
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: 13cam13]
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01/19/14 02:36 AM
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Thanks land pirate. Good luck with your hebbronville lease next year
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Re: South Texas area experts
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01/19/14 02:38 AM
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wetduck
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if you can afford both places you can afford more then one gun on the 1000. pick up 2 spots and say ones for the wife if she wants. LP is right 1000 acr needs no more then 4/5 folks no matter the terrain
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Re: South Texas area experts
[Re: wetduck]
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01/19/14 01:12 PM
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if you can afford both places you can afford more then one gun on the 1000. pick up 2 spots and say ones for the wife if she wants. LP is right 1000 acr needs no more then 4/5 folks no matter the terrain Good point wet duck
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