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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
[Re: Merican Duck Hunter]
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01/17/14 01:51 AM
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. But to answer the OP's question the main thing for me is professionalism. Its not about killing birds, its about making a positive experience. Its more about being out on the water, cutting up, laughing, learning, and experiencing something out of my typical norm. killing birds is just a bonus! You can go sit by a pond in the middle of a city park and watch ducks all day while cutting it up with your buddies. It won't cost you a dime. But when your paying a guide you are paying them to put you on birds. Hell if that wasn't the case then why do guides bother scouting at all. I enjoy watching birds work a spread just as much as I enjoy shooting them and if I pay for a hunt and I don't get to see that then in my mind it wasn't worth the cash. But like anyone who has been doing this long enough knows, just because you see birds in a spot one day doesn't mean they'll be back the next day. Happened to us a couple weeks ago. Scouted 100's of birds on some public land, went back the next day and they were gone. We saw 5-6 but that was it. It happens, but I didn't have to pay anything. Just my time and sweat.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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At this rate, id be happy to just find 100s of birds. This past week has been brutal!
Arise.Kill.Eat -Acts 10:13 I have read a bunch of stuff on the internet about Star Wars but that does not mean I can skin a deer with a light saber.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
[Re: Merican Duck Hunter]
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At this rate, id be happy to just find 100s of birds. This past week has been brutal! At least if you don't find birds you dont run the chance of being flamed on a public forum. Some guides are bad and just don't care. My cousin had a friend who had a buddy that was a guide up in Maryland who said he could put us on some black mallards. I should have known something was up when he wanted us to pay that morning. I told him my money was in my pocket and since I was already wadered up I asked if I could pay him after hunt. reluctantly he said yes. Well we humped it through the woods to a hole he was running a ice eater on. The whole time he was talking to his buddy and just left us standing by a tree on about 6 inches of ice. Never even saw a duck and all the way back to the pickups he was asking me about my guide service and coming to Texas to hunt. Well it's time to pay and I pull out a check to pay. I thought he would adjust price since we saw NOTHING!! I figure he will charge us $75 each, half of the price since he did have fuel price for ice eater. He charged all 3 of us full price!! I did not tip him. Anyway I shot my black mallard on the bay that afternoon where he should have never been at my friends blind on public by the way. Dang bay was freezing up and we even shot the most coveted duck of them all,,, the majestic mallard over oyster beds. Good thing I had that mallard call on me in the salt water
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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At this rate, id be happy to just find 100s of birds. This past week has been brutal! At least if you don't find birds you dont run the chance of being flamed on a public forum. Some guides are bad and just don't care. My cousin had a friend who had a buddy that was a guide up in Maryland who said he could put us on some black mallards. but elder this is what I was saying. I've heard a lot about your outfit. Without ever meeting you, without a doubt, I know that If I ever had the opportunity to go on a trip with you, regardless of killing birds, we would have a good time. Its the guides like you and a handful of the other guides that frequent this forum that give the bad guides a good rep. and yes I meant it that way. When someone sees yalls post they expect the same treatment by the jackwagon that they're getting a good deal from. When that guide doesn't step up to the plate, then people get irritated and mad at all guides. Just seems to me that the times are changing, and the old saying of common sense is the least common thing in the world rings true.
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Arise.Kill.Eat -Acts 10:13 I have read a bunch of stuff on the internet about Star Wars but that does not mean I can skin a deer with a light saber.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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Always helps if there's a good romantic drama on the ipad mini. You seriously take that with you duck hunting?
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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I dont always take guided trips, but when I do, I expect to get slemped.
I like spoonie, his humor is dryer than my duck lease.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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At this rate, id be happy to just find 100s of birds. This past week has been brutal! At least if you don't find birds you dont run the chance of being flamed on a public forum. Some guides are bad and just don't care. My cousin had a friend who had a buddy that was a guide up in Maryland who said he could put us on some black mallards. I should have known something was up when he wanted us to pay that morning. I told him my money was in my pocket and since I was already wadered up I asked if I could pay him after hunt. reluctantly he said yes. Well we humped it through the woods to a hole he was running a ice eater on. The whole time he was talking to his buddy and just left us standing by a tree on about 6 inches of ice. Never even saw a duck and all the way back to the pickups he was asking me about my guide service and coming to Texas to hunt. Well it's time to pay and I pull out a check to pay. I thought he would adjust price since we saw NOTHING!! I figure he will charge us $75 each, half of the price since he did have fuel price for ice eater. He charged all 3 of us full price!! I did not tip him. Anyway I shot my black mallard on the bay that afternoon where he should have never been at my friends blind on public by the way. Dang bay was freezing up and we even shot the most coveted duck of them all,,, the majestic mallard over oyster beds. Good thing I had that mallard call on me in the salt water I hope I see that guy in a dark alley...
the thing about baiting is, even a rookie hunter could have a 170 bird season if they bait holes
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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At this rate, id be happy to just find 100s of birds. This past week has been brutal! At least if you don't find birds you dont run the chance of being flamed on a public forum. Some guides are bad and just don't care. My cousin had a friend who had a buddy that was a guide up in Maryland who said he could put us on some black mallards. I should have known something was up when he wanted us to pay that morning. I told him my money was in my pocket and since I was already wadered up I asked if I could pay him after hunt. reluctantly he said yes. Well we humped it through the woods to a hole he was running a ice eater on. The whole time he was talking to his buddy and just left us standing by a tree on about 6 inches of ice. Never even saw a duck and all the way back to the pickups he was asking me about my guide service and coming to Texas to hunt. Well it's time to pay and I pull out a check to pay. I thought he would adjust price since we saw NOTHING!! I figure he will charge us $75 each, half of the price since he did have fuel price for ice eater. He charged all 3 of us full price!! I did not tip him. Anyway I shot my black mallard on the bay that afternoon where he should have never been at my friends blind on public by the way. Dang bay was freezing up and we even shot the most coveted duck of them all,,, the majestic mallard over oyster beds. Good thing I had that mallard call on me in the salt water I hope I see that guy in a dark alley... I wish you would have dough popped him
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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At this rate, id be happy to just find 100s of birds. This past week has been brutal! At least if you don't find birds you dont run the chance of being flamed on a public forum. Some guides are bad and just don't care. My cousin had a friend who had a buddy that was a guide up in Maryland who said he could put us on some black mallards. I should have known something was up when he wanted us to pay that morning. I told him my money was in my pocket and since I was already wadered up I asked if I could pay him after hunt. reluctantly he said yes. Well we humped it through the woods to a hole he was running a ice eater on. The whole time he was talking to his buddy and just left us standing by a tree on about 6 inches of ice. Never even saw a duck and all the way back to the pickups he was asking me about my guide service and coming to Texas to hunt. Well it's time to pay and I pull out a check to pay. I thought he would adjust price since we saw NOTHING!! I figure he will charge us $75 each, half of the price since he did have fuel price for ice eater. He charged all 3 of us full price!! I did not tip him. Anyway I shot my black mallard on the bay that afternoon where he should have never been at my friends blind on public by the way. Dang bay was freezing up and we even shot the most coveted duck of them all,,, the majestic mallard over oyster beds. Good thing I had that mallard call on me in the salt water I hope I see that guy in a dark alley... I wish you would have dough popped him Didn't he shoot an 870?
the thing about baiting is, even a rookie hunter could have a 170 bird season if they bait holes
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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01/17/14 10:53 AM
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not sure I would use such a broad paint brush, Mark. Every situation is different...I take clients out hunting, and I am not going to take them to one of my holes, I am going to make the boss man pay for it Gotcha, that's completly different, I understand, your not paying for it. We do the same thing with clients, that's what the private lease is for although I have only been to it twice during the first split since public has been so great this year. Enjoy this weekend. Can I have your lease in Stevenville then Mark? You sure can Jeff, if you have 3 grand to waste on a bunch of divers, spooneys, and sprigs, I have not leased that property in three years but the owner called again this year trying to lease it to us. If you are serious, send me a PM and I will give you the info.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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01/17/14 12:15 PM
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
[Re: Merican Duck Hunter]
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Anyone who's paid any attention to the forum in the past few weeks have seen my last experience with a guide. But to answer the OP's question the main thing for me is professionalism. Its not about killing birds, its about making a positive experience. I never have a problem picking up/putting out decoys, Im pretty much the best hunting buddy ever because I LOVE building blinds. Basically Im not afraid of work, and it doesn't feel like duck hunting if you don't have a little work. Its more about being out on the water, cutting up, laughing, learning, and experiencing something out of my typical norm. killing birds is just a bonus! I agree.... if someone takes me hunting and we aint killing birds you better be handing me a beer
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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I hope I see that guy in a dark alley...
I doubt that very much Wells Fargo, are you gonna slap him with one of your furry gloves?
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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codburn cool it with the personal attacks!
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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codburn cool it with the personal attacks! Ronnie, its not personal at all. You, Jeff and squeaky get on here all day and troll people. Just a little of what y'all have been handing out to me for 18 months. If its hurting your feelings then stay off my thread.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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You can always tell how thin skinned they are by the "What do you expect from hunting guides?" threads. Have a good year guys its time for me to get my last week of hunting killing in and get back to work. See yall in the fall...
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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codburn cool it with the personal attacks! Ronnie, its not personal at all. You, Jeff and squeaky get on here all day and troll people. Just a little of what y'all have been handing out to me for 18 months. If its hurting your feelings then stay off my thread. whos squeaky?
Arise.Kill.Eat -Acts 10:13 I have read a bunch of stuff on the internet about Star Wars but that does not mean I can skin a deer with a light saber.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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I think he's part of the apple dumpling gang.
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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Hey Roger Dorn, I like the Wells Fargo comment. Don't hate since I actually have a real job instead of being the Mike Elias of little league baseball...
the thing about baiting is, even a rookie hunter could have a 170 bird season if they bait holes
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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not sure I would use such a broad paint brush, Mark. Every situation is different...I take clients out hunting, and I am not going to take them to one of my holes, I am going to make the boss man pay for it Gotcha, that's completly different, I understand, your not paying for it. We do the same thing with clients, that's what the private lease is for although I have only been to it twice during the first split since public has been so great this year. Enjoy this weekend. Can I have your lease in Stevenville then Mark? You sure can Jeff, if you have 3 grand to waste on a bunch of divers, spooneys, and sprigs, I have not leased that property in three years but the owner called again this year trying to lease it to us. If you are serious, send me a PM and I will give you the info. Are you going to take me up on my offer to help teach a newbie?
Say When.....
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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Hey Roger Dorn, I like the Wells Fargo comment. Don't hate since I actually have a real job instead of being the Mike Elias of little league baseball... I like helping good kids get scholarships to D1 schools, now be quiet and fetch my free toaster!
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Re: What do you expect from hunting guides?
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now be quiet and fetch my free toaster!
Arise.Kill.Eat -Acts 10:13 I have read a bunch of stuff on the internet about Star Wars but that does not mean I can skin a deer with a light saber.
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