Just wondering.

Do you have to tag a buck with an eartag if it is shot in a HF place and there is a bill of sale covering the purchase?

Most HF places have MLD tags...

Yeah I know that but I was wondering at what point are they considered livestock and not game.

Lol. "Price check on register 1, I need a bar code for a 12 point, 160" deer please. Sir, will that be cash or credit and could I interest you in a non typical that will score 180", only an extra $10,000 and today and today only, we will throw in a free pig with the purchase of two bucks!"

Yes

Never. I was wondering at what point some people are considered arseholes and not people for starting such a stupid thread? If it was a serious question then I appologize.

Ok say you buy it a auction and have it slaughtered. How about then?

No matter how you put it, deer are wildlife. Even if they arent wild.

Can someone quote the statute? Not that I don't believe ya.

Are you thinking of buying one and then slaughtering it or are you just being a arse?

Even canned whitetail hunts have to be in season so yes it would require a tag

Except for deer killed by MLD permit, LAMPS permit, TPWD Special Drawn Legal Deer Tag, U.S. Forest Service antlerless permit, or Big Time Texas Hunt, all deer must be tagged IMMEDIATELY upon kill in a secure manner anywhere on the deer, with an appropriate license tag with the month and date CUT OUT.


All deer taken on a property for which MLD permits have been issued must be tagged with the appropriate type of MLD permit. NOTE: No license log entry or tag from a hunting license is required for deer killed under a MLD permit.


All antlerless deer taken on a LAMPS property must be tagged with a LAMPS permit. This does not include antlerless deer taken during the Archery Only Season or Muzzleloader Only Season. NOTE: No hunting license log or hunting license tag is required for deer killed under a LAMPS permit.

That is some of that funny right there.

Let me guess....did your buddy go to HF and kill a monster buck ?

One man's pen is another man's ranch. Axis deer, Fallow deer and Canadian whitetail they are all exotics if you know what I mean. At what point due they stop being game animals and become livestock?

As soon as they stop escaping escape proof fencing.

There is only one genetically pure deer herd in the US, the king. Every other place has had reintroduction in some form or fashion.

If you buy a deer weither on a low fence or high fence the momment you take pocession of it you better have a carcass tag or permit (if alive)

This is actually a legitimate question

Wildlife as defined by TPWD: A species, including each individual of a species, that normally lives in state of nature is not ordinarily domesticated or; any wild animal, wild bird, or aquatic life

Livestock as defined by USC Section 1471 (excerpted):

The term “livestock” means cattle, elk, reindeer, bison, horses, deer, sheep, goats, swine, poultry (including egg-producing poultry), fish used for food, and other animals designated by the Secretary (at the Secretary’s sole discretion) that—
(A) are part of a foundation herd (including producing dairy cattle) or offspring; or

(B) are purchased as part of a normal operation and not to obtain additional benefits under this subchapter.

When you are raising the deer domestically for the purpose of food production they are livestock. If you charge someone to come out and kill it, it is wildlife.

I argue this constantly with one of my hunting partners. He refuses to believe that 90+% of the deer herds in Texas were stocked at some point.

Right. If someone wanted to learn more about the subject, read up on elk farms and all the regs.
I don't think there is a big enough demand for whitetail meat as far as farming is concerned (non hunting). Why not stick with an exotic such as axis or fallow, even elk in other states. There are some economics built into the equation as well too (production per head). As long as the primary goal is to hunt them, I don't see any reason to change the law.
To me, its inconceivable to pay to go out and shoot a deer with a tag in its ear, but oh well...I'll never understand why some folks get satisfaction and a sence of accomplishment for doing that.

Deer as livestock is nothing new.

http://www.nadefa.org/

I think that once a deer is marked as livestock e.g. eartaged and sold at auction it no longer is a deer and becomes personal property livestock. I would think the ucc would trump the state wildlife regulations? Of course I'm not going to test it if you know what I mean.

If you are making money off of people coming out to shoot the deer the harvest is regulated by parks and wildlife and needs a permit or a tag.

If you have a domesticated herd of deer used for the commercial sale of their meat, fur, hooves, semen, eggs, etc, they are livestock and are regulated by the USDA.

I think there would be a lot more demand than most people would think, some up scale restaurants do thriving business in the exotics, to quite a few people WT is an exotic.

Per State Statute, all deer are wildlife and OWNED by the State of Texas. Ear tag or not...

Ok, I am not trying to stir no darn pot.

You are trying to tell me that if you buy a raised deer and breed it, that you have to have a tag to kill it? My BS flag is about half way up right now.....


I can pay a breeder $5k for a pregnant doe and transport with a permit, but I can't kill her until it is deer season and I buy a tag? If that is truly the law, it is bull.