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Tv Shows
#4795749
12/01/13 02:44 PM
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Rodngun
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So I messed up my hamstring a little,sitting here watching TV instead of in a blind.
Watching O'Neill Outside ...what the **** ??
Here comes a really nice buck down the hill - he is excited,I'm excited and then - wait a minute what the ?? A big Yellow Tag in his ear and then the next one runs bye - a big Red Tag in his ear.
How embarrassing , what the hell are we doing to hunting - Now wonder all the Anti's have so much ammo against us hunters .
Don't get me wrong - I know the only way some people can kill a deer is if they are behind a fence - if that's what it takes - then that's YOUR problem - but don't put it on TV ... the Anti's see stuff like this and think we all are like this - its a **** shame !!! O'k - I'm done.That's just 53 years worth of hunting frustration coming out of me .
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Rodngun]
#4796106
12/01/13 05:46 PM
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1860.colt
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red tag, yellow tag sounds like black friday all over again.
i'm postaddic
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: 1860.colt]
#4796210
12/01/13 06:52 PM
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dgilbert
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red tag, yellow tag sounds like black friday all over again.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: dgilbert]
#4796217
12/01/13 06:56 PM
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cmc
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Tags have nothing to do with antis they don't care how where or when an animal is hunted, the fact is its dead and they don't like it. Apply this same logic to a TV show where the bucks do not have tags and that would imply that antis are ok with the deer that were killed on that show. I highly doubt this is the case, the show is not made for anti hunters so hell with what they think about it. I'm not really into either but I just turn the channel.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: dgilbert]
#4796221
12/01/13 06:58 PM
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ChadTRG42
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Growing big white tails is big business! You see it all the time. Lots of high fence ranches that cater to the "hunter" who will pay. I visited a deer breeder who had a breeder buck that was over 220 B&C. Most awesome deer I ever saw. But, it's not for me.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: cmc]
#4796225
12/01/13 07:03 PM
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Matt1023
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Believe me, those tags don't make those deer any less wild. Ive hunted a bunch of HF places and all the fences do is keep the deer inside, those deer can see,smell and hear you just as good as the deer on my LF lease in Comanche can.
www.1023media.com/outdoorsClick the link above to check out our hunting ranch / breeder promo videos. Would love to film your ranch next!
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Matt1023]
#4796373
12/01/13 08:23 PM
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Hogman4127
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Ya they can hear the bucket of oats being shook to bring them into shooting range within 30 minutes or 25% off the troohy fee attached to buck #73.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Hogman4127]
#4796419
12/01/13 08:50 PM
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aeb
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Quit watching hunting shows a good while back.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Matt1023]
#4796463
12/01/13 09:12 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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Believe me, those tags don't make those deer any less wild. Ive hunted a bunch of HF places and all the fences do is keep the deer inside, those deer can see,smell and hear you just as good as the deer on my LF lease in Comanche can. On 99% of places that is a big load of hogwash. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#4796489
12/01/13 09:22 PM
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Matt1023
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Hogwash huh? Well to each his own. You believe what you want and I'll stick to believing what Ive seen with my own eyes.
Last edited by Matt1023; 12/01/13 09:23 PM.
www.1023media.com/outdoorsClick the link above to check out our hunting ranch / breeder promo videos. Would love to film your ranch next!
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#4796492
12/01/13 09:24 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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Don't get me wrong - I know the only way some people can kill a deer is if they are behind a fence - if that's what it takes - then that's YOUR problem - but don't put it on TV ... the Anti's see stuff like this and think we all are like this - its a **** shame !!! O'k - I'm done.That's just 53 years worth of hunting frustration coming out of me . So you are embarrassed by a form of legal hunting? Then work to change it. Otherwise if YOU don't like it, then that is YOUR problem.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
#4796515
12/01/13 09:33 PM
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Matt1023
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I realize this is a no win argument and I'll never change anyones mind, but if you break it down and think of it like this, what difference does it make if there is a HF?
1. Whether its HF or LF, are you not there to kill a deer? I don't understand why its so much more noble to kill a LF deer. Deer are everywhere, its not hard to just go kill a deer if you want to. Granted, its a nice accomplishment to kill a monster buck on a LF place, but even that wouldn't be that hard if more hunters were management minded.
2. With a HF, you are most likely going to kill a mature deer thats at its prime, and not some 3 year old ten point with 3 more good years in front of him like my lease mates do on my LF lease.
Agan, I realize I'm not going to change anyone's mind, and to each his own. We're all here because we love to hunt and we shouldn't give each other grief for any form of legal hunting, in fact, it should all be encouraged, and save that grief you want to give for all those anti-organizations out there
Last edited by Matt1023; 12/01/13 09:35 PM.
www.1023media.com/outdoorsClick the link above to check out our hunting ranch / breeder promo videos. Would love to film your ranch next!
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Rodngun]
#4796600
12/01/13 10:15 PM
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1860.colt
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seen lot of people spend money, do the hard work, then lose everything to higher client. Bigger Bucks
i'm postaddic
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: 1860.colt]
#4796734
12/01/13 11:06 PM
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BunnyBlaster
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It's not just TV, it's this entire HF trophy farming culture. Just look at the outfitter and guides section here, most of the WT outfits have deer that are named and have prices. To me that is no different than Thompson Temple or any other livestock shooting operation, just more money involved.
I'm not for or against it, I just don't like how there is less and less viable public spots for meat hunting. Compare that to other states and our situation is quite sad. A man should be able to find a place to meat hunt without paying a fortune or having to network! The stories I hear about state land from my Michigan co-workers makes me jealous
just my .02
Last edited by BunnyBlaster; 12/01/13 11:08 PM.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Matt1023]
#4796892
12/02/13 12:03 AM
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rifleman
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I realize this is a no win argument and I'll never change anyones mind, but if you break it down and think of it like this, what difference does it make if there is a HF?
1. Whether its HF or LF, are you not there to kill a deer? I don't understand why its so much more noble to kill a LF deer. Deer are everywhere, its not hard to just go kill a deer if you want to. Granted, its a nice accomplishment to kill a monster buck on a LF place, but even that wouldn't be that hard if more hunters were management minded.
2. With a HF, you are most likely going to kill a mature deer thats at its prime, and not some 3 year old ten point with 3 more good years in front of him like my lease mates do on my LF lease.
Agan, I realize I'm not going to change anyone's mind, and to each his own. We're all here because we love to hunt and we shouldn't give each other grief for any form of legal hunting, in fact, it should all be encouraged, and save that grief you want to give for all those anti-organizations out there With that argument you're saying it's easier to kill big mature deer on HF than it is LF.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: rifleman]
#4797431
12/02/13 02:28 AM
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lawdawg845
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to each his own, it isnt for me... doesnt feel right or challenging. I just dont think it can be fulfilling to simply write a big check to get a trophy buck.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Rodngun]
#4798509
12/02/13 02:19 PM
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1860.colt
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hunted next ta one of them thar hf area's.. they don't want ya chooten one of tar deers if it escaps, yetone of my trophy little scub 6 pointer gets oon thar land, they wanna charge me $500.00 culling fee names have been changed to protect the inocent
i'm postaddic
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: 1860.colt]
#4799399
12/02/13 06:28 PM
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WTGuide
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I need a new recliner for the HF/LF opinion (sometimes ill informed) threds...........
Think you can/Think you can't/Either way you're right
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: WTGuide]
#4799827
12/02/13 08:30 PM
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RLoving1
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Guess thats part of reason I'm not much into alot of hunting shows. Granted I have and will agin hunt exotics and the large part of those are HF hunts, I avoid watching some white tail hunts on tv because I am a realist! Places I hunt rarely have 150-160 class deer and they are fair gamer with low fence. If you have place with room,genetics,and management it could be different. But the shows are high priced or are a quality operation where hunter is only a hunter.
Brayden (Lazy L's Southern Comfort) you will be missed! You were more than a pet you were my reason to rise and return for many days! You were my rock! 12/26/03-10/25/13
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: WTGuide]
#4799845
12/02/13 08:33 PM
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RedTrail
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I love the eartag idea. Make it a rule that you have to put one on all the pets on the HF ranch and put the deers name on it, so we'd know what name to call him to get him to jump over on the LF side.
”Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.”
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: lawdawg845]
#4799864
12/02/13 08:39 PM
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Curly
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to each his own, it isnt for me... doesnt feel right or challenging. I just dont think it can be fulfilling to simply write a big check to get a trophy buck.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: lawdawg845]
#4800478
12/03/13 12:25 AM
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Rodngun
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to each his own, it isnt for me... doesnt feel right or challenging. I just dont think it can be fulfilling to simply write a big check to get a trophy buck. X 10 ....
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Rodngun]
#4801616
12/03/13 01:48 PM
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Hogman4127
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I do not care if someone else does it I just don’t. I do not believe it can be compared to going out on your own and scouting all summer to find a place you think will be the spot where yall will meet to showing up, writing a check, and getting brought to your stand and told "the deer you are looking for will show up between 0835 and 0850. He does it every day and sticks around for about 30 minutes. I’m going to go park on the other side of the hill and will pick you up when I hear the shot.
Before anyone starts saying that is not how it is, I went as a guest witn BIL and that is exactly how it went. Deer showed up right on time too.
Once again I do not care if someone else shoots a deer like that.
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Hogman4127]
#4801950
12/03/13 03:44 PM
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1860.colt
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I do not care if someone else does it I just don’t. I do not believe it can be compared to going out on your own and scouting all summer to find a place you think will be the spot where yall will meet to showing up, writing a check, and getting brought to your stand and told "the deer you are looking for will show up between 0835 and 0850. He does it every day and sticks around for about 30 minutes. I’m going to go park on the other side of the hill and will pick you up when I hear the shot.
Before anyone starts saying that is not how it is, I went as a guest witn BIL and that is exactly how it went. Deer showed up right on time too.
Once again I do not care if someone else shoots a deer like that. friend that worked with went ta one of them thar places, for so much $$ could shoot any doe, for few more $$ spike or forkling, & $$ could shoot a 120.. bigger the buck the bigger the bucks. he quit hunting.
i'm postaddic
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Re: Tv Shows
[Re: Hogman4127]
#4801963
12/03/13 03:49 PM
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tdecker22
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I do not care if someone else does it I just don’t. I do not believe it can be compared to going out on your own and scouting all summer to find a place you think will be the spot where yall will meet to showing up, writing a check, and getting brought to your stand and told "the deer you are looking for will show up between 0835 and 0850. He does it every day and sticks around for about 30 minutes. I’m going to go park on the other side of the hill and will pick you up when I hear the shot.
Before anyone starts saying that is not how it is, I went as a guest witn BIL and that is exactly how it went. Deer showed up right on time too.
Once again I do not care if someone else shoots a deer like that. This is how I feel. People hunt these high fence ranches and it may be a 3000 to 10,000 acre ranch and they shoot a 200" deer and they act like they just hung the dayum moon or something. Thing is there was prolly 30 deer in there that were 200" and they passed up (4) 190's (7) in the 180's (10) IN THE 160s just to finally see that 200 walk out. Then they get their story on here and act like it was one hell of a hunt and man was it challenging. lmao
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