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One more reason AR's are not good #4772638 11/22/13 09:58 PM
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Had a customer send me a pic of her deer she got on there land and told me that they went to take the deer into the processors and they got the warden called on them and that the processor refused to let them have the deer back till the warden got there and now they have got to deal with that .I havent heard from her what the outcome was .But this is an 4.5 Yr at least and would not have been very much more that what he was.
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Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Kenneth1977] #4772646 11/22/13 09:59 PM
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That sucks but why would you take an illegal deer to a processor?

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It's not up to the processor to make that call , i know what our local GW has told my grand parents and he said they didnt have to and he wouldnt be on them if he found one like that in the cooler.

Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Kenneth1977] #4772668 11/22/13 10:04 PM
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It sucks sometimes..but how else can the TPW keep people from shooting young bucks? I also have seen many 4yo+ bucks that were not 13" wide, but they need some way of letting the young ones grow up.


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Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Fork-LegendV21] #4772693 11/22/13 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fork-Legend211
It sucks sometimes..but how else can the TPW keep people from shooting young bucks? I also have seen many 4yo+ bucks that were not 13" wide, but they need some way of letting the young ones grow up.

Man i dont know it's sure is a catch 22 on it , i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.

Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Kenneth1977] #4772744 11/22/13 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
...... i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.


and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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...... i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.


and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.

What ???? Thats the thing you pay over 700K for a place and you get told how to manage it and we wonder why that some say F it i am going to do what i want on my place .....yeah i guess if that the way you feel about saying Big Brother BS i hate when people say that junk. mad

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Lets not talk about all the big bucks east Texas had pumped out this year.

Lets talk about the one 3.5 year old 8 pointer that was shot that didn't meet the antler width


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Kenneth1977] #4772767 11/22/13 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
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...... i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.


and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.

What ???? Thats the thing you pay over 700K for a place and you get told how to manage it and we wonder why that some say F it i am going to do what i want on my place .....yeah i guess if that the way you feel about saying Big Brother BS i hate when people say that junk. mad


Private land managing a public resource.


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Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Fork-LegendV21] #4772780 11/22/13 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fork-Legend211
It sucks sometimes..but how else can the TPW keep people from shooting young bucks? I also have seen many 4yo+ bucks that were not 13" wide, but they need some way of letting the young ones grow up.


No they don't.

Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Kenneth1977] #4772781 11/22/13 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
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...... i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.


and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.

What ???? Thats the thing you pay over 700K for a place and you get told how to manage it and we wonder why that some say F it i am going to do what i want on my place .....yeah i guess if that the way you feel about saying Big Brother BS i hate when people say that junk. mad


well dagum buddy, its one thing to do it behind closed gates, its another to get on a public forum and say it. i am not one of the "the government is the devil" types at all but big brother is here and as powerful as he is because people still feel the need to be outlaws and then flaunt it.


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Sneaky] #4772785 11/22/13 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fork-Legend211
It sucks sometimes..but how else can the TPW keep people from shooting young bucks? I also have seen many 4yo+ bucks that were not 13" wide, but they need some way of letting the young ones grow up.


No they don't.


cmon sneak, its for herd health wink



and HUGE antlers that we all want!


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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...... i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.


and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.

What ???? Thats the thing you pay over 700K for a place and you get told how to manage it and we wonder why that some say F it i am going to do what i want on my place .....yeah i guess if that the way you feel about saying Big Brother BS i hate when people say that junk. mad


well dagum buddy, its one thing to do it behind closed gates, its another to get on a public forum and say it. i am not one of the "the government is the devil" types at all but big brother is here and as powerful as he is because people still feel the need to be outlaws and then flaunt it.

What in the world are you talking about

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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
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and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.

What ???? Thats the thing you pay over 700K for a place and you get told how to manage it and we wonder why that some say F it i am going to do what i want on my place .....yeah i guess if that the way you feel about saying Big Brother BS i hate when people say that junk. mad


well dagum buddy, its one thing to do it behind closed gates, its another to get on a public forum and say it. i am not one of the "the government is the devil" types at all but big brother is here and as powerful as he is because people still feel the need to be outlaws and then flaunt it.

What in the world are you talking about


nothing.


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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What in the world are you talking about


nothing.


rofl

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What was the width? Just curious


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I will get off in a little bit

You shouldnt have said that
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Originally Posted By: jshouse
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It sucks sometimes..but how else can the TPW keep people from shooting young bucks? I also have seen many 4yo+ bucks that were not 13" wide, but they need some way of letting the young ones grow up.


No they don't.


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and HUGE antlers that we all want!



I hate AR's, there is no way they should be able to tell us what to shoot. There is no valid argument as to why this is forced on everyone. I like big bucks but I don't like the fact that it's forced on us.

Re: One more reason AR's are not good [Re: Kenneth1977] #4772859 11/22/13 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
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...... i know if i saw one that was older and was needing to be culled out i'd shoot it and just do it myself.


and we all wonder why big brother has to tell us to act.

What ???? Thats the thing you pay over 700K for a place and you get told how to manage it and we wonder why that some say F it i am going to do what i want on my place .....yeah i guess if that the way you feel about saying Big Brother BS i hate when people say that junk. mad


Get on MLD and you won't have to worry about AR's

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Its the Law! Obey it!!!! no excuses!!!! The person who shot this deer is a law breaker. Owning the land dose not change a single thing. Just because you don't like a law does not mean you can ignore it! Stupid is as Stupid does!


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Its the Law! Obey it!!!! no excuses!!!! The person who shot this deer is a law breaker. Owning the land dose not change a single thing. Just because you don't like a law does not mean you can ignore it! Stupid is as Stupid does!

rofl Don't hold back man, tell us how you really feel grin


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Yea i have to agree with some of what Kenneth say's. this is my first year to hunt, and myself i'm not a Horn's just like the meat, but the county i hunt has made me a gotta go for the horn's shot. To me cause of the AR, because we cant take any doe, and only one spike. My 0.2

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Kenneth - Just curious on why your customer says the deer is 4.5 yrs at least. Did she have the jawbone aged? You can’t tell the age from these pics. I’m on MLD in East Texas and when the jawbones are pulled, there are a few surprises, mostly deer that was thought to be older than they were.

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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
It's not up to the processor to make that call , i know what our local GW has told my grand parents and he said they didnt have to and he wouldnt be on them if he found one like that in the cooler.


Yes it's up to processor to make call. They measure everyone and most just turn you away if it's not 13in, not keep the deer and call GW...that's what isn't there call. Just like if someone came to my house asking me to keep illegal goods...heck no. I'd send them away but wouldn't call cops.
That deer doesn't even look close to being legal by ar standards...why do people keep taking these to processor! Crazy to me...been better to call GW yourself and say you made mistake if your going to turn it in anyways...


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Kenneth - Just curious on why your customer says the deer is 4.5 yrs at least. Did she have the jawbone aged? You can’t tell the age from these pics. I’m on MLD in East Texas and when the jawbones are pulled, there are a few surprises, mostly deer that was thought to be older than they were.


Doesn't look 4.5 to me either. But looks can be deceiving.

Did you see the mandible yourself, Kenneth? What was your estimate of the age? Of course, even the pros can disagree, but I think he's younger than 4.5.


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