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Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 03:05 PM
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Was talking with a GW the other day and he told me that there has been some talk about how to get rid of the undesirable bucks that dont make ARs. He said that one idea being thrown around is to allow any buck to be shot by kids on youth weekend. That way kids who hunt in AR counties also have a better chance of harvesting their first buck. Also it would obviously allow them to shoot those culls that need cullin.
I do NOT want to turn this into an ARs are stupid thread, but what are yals opinion on this possible rule change?
Personally, I think its a wonderful idea.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 03:06 PM
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 03:16 PM
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 03:40 PM
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There is an antler restriction
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 03:47 PM
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This would be nice. I can get my kids out and on a deer faster. They are getting bored waiting for that older shooter. We have nice legal young bucks but they are the ones I want to keep around. A young buck that isn't as nice as his classmates would make a great first buck for the kids.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 04:06 PM
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I think it is a great idea. That has been my only real compalint about the AR's. Get the kids interested by letting them burn some gun powder on any buck they want to take!
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 04:08 PM
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 04:17 PM
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 04:28 PM
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Great Idea, i say let the kids shoot anything they want. Gets them more involved and intrested. Id rather have my kids in the woods than anything else for sure.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:08 PM
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I would like to see a landowner tag issued for his discression where he could take a cull for every say 500 acres
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:13 PM
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I have several bucks on my place that I would love to let my kids shoot but can't because of AR. I think it would be a great idea.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:15 PM
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Sounds like somebody has been listening. Great idea.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:16 PM
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I'd be on board with this.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:26 PM
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For you folks that need some bucks culled and don't have kids, I've got an experienced 16 year old deer hunter for rent!
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:36 PM
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I'd be okay with it if it was actually used for culls, but we know that won't be the case.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:40 PM
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I don't see how that helps. A lot of properties have a lot more than just a few culls on each property. And I've been on a few leases that don't allow guests and/or none of the people on the lease have kids. They just need to allow you to kill culls as needed but required to take pics of antlers and maybe send in the jaw...
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:40 PM
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That would definitely be handy. Now just the special youth season or a youth during the entire season is the question.
Just doing it for fun now.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:49 PM
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I don't see how that helps. A lot of properties have a lot more than just a few culls on each property. And I've been on a few leases that don't allow guests and/or none of the people on the lease have kids. They just need to allow you to kill culls as needed but required to take pics of antlers and maybe send in the jaw... The logistics of something like this would never work. The TPWD cant handle thousands of pics and jaws coming in. And what good would that do? If someone shot a yound deer they would never send the jaw in. If the lease doesnt allow kids thats just dumb. Good way of securing a future with no hunting. And everyone knows a kid that would love to be able to have the oppurtunity to go hunting if you dont have any of your own.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 05:54 PM
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Heck yea man, kids are a big part of it! That's why I let them hunt for free.
Just doing it for fun now.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 06:06 PM
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I like the idea of letting kids shoot em all year, but I fear that adults would cheat the system too much to let ARs work. Im sure there would be some of this on youth weekend, but at least it would be contained to that weekend. Just as im sure there are people who cheat on youth weekend now.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 06:37 PM
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I like AR's just for the fact that it does protect those young bucks, but I think every 3 to 4 years or so they should suspend the rule and allow anything with a hardened antler to be taken and maybe even allow an extra buck, say instead of two go to three. Would help get rid of those inferior bucks and give folks that don't like AR's somthing to look forward to.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 09:48 PM
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I think that would be a great idea. However I am not sure that it is necessary. I hunt on three differenct places, in three different counties and I can count on one hand how many culls really needed taken out of the gene pool that didn't meet one of the AR requirements.
I do know there are some out there and some places there are probably more than others but I am not certain it is a huge issue.
It would be nice to have a window to do some elimination if needed.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 09:55 PM
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KG68
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Sounds like a great ideal. I would like to see the AR's changed to any buck but only one over 13" on 17 and under kids all season long. Our kids and grandkids are losing interest in the hunt after their 13" and over is down.
Last edited by KG68; 11/15/13 09:58 PM.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 09:58 PM
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This should be done with no relation to the cull buck issue. It should just be done to make sure we keep the young ones interested in hunting. Give 'em a chance to get a buck quicker and not be constantly told that they can't shoot because it doesn't measure up.
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Re: Possible new antler restriction exception rule
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11/15/13 10:05 PM
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I think its great, kids should be exempt from the AR in my opinion. They get really tired of hearing "don't shoot it, the horns aint right". They will loose all interest in this great sport very fast.
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