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10/31/08 02:11 AM
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TXBowhunter1
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say u shoot a deer and dont recover it. do u still burn a tag on it?
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10/31/08 02:12 AM
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Where you gonna put it? 
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10/31/08 02:15 AM
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no, theres no way to tell if it lived logng enough for another hunter to kill it....now dont make it a habbit, but I say no
the man at the top of the mountain didn't fall up it
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[Re: BMD]
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10/31/08 02:15 AM
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where it cant be found.  
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Re: Question????
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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10/31/08 02:19 AM
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say u shoot a deer and dont recover it. do u still burn a tag on it?
Here we go again......If you drew or found blood, BURN THE TAG! If your not confident in yourself or the settings of your weapon then you should still be at the range shooting or flinging arrows, JMO. 
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 02:26 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
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Re: Question????
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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10/31/08 02:32 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like. 
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 02:37 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like.
but do u burn the tag? its a general personal question...what would u do?
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 02:40 AM
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Somewhere here in deer hunting post I made some coments about this topic under Bowhunting Ethics. It got to be a mess. I try and abide by the same set of rules that any game ranch worth it's salt does. If you've got a blood trail, you've got a dead deer. I know I'll take flack for it but if I can't hammer them I need more practice. I know, i know, we're all gonna lose one some time. I understand that but as has been said, don't make a habit of it...
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Re: Question????
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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10/31/08 02:47 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like.
but do u burn the tag? its a general personal question...what would u do?
Can you not tell from my replies what i would do.....burn the f'n tag.
So i take it that if you would draw blood or gut shot 2 bucks and never find them, then YOU would continue going after bucks?
What's your personal choice not what is ethical?
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 02:48 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like.
but do u burn the tag? its a general personal question...what would u do?
Can you not tell from my replies what i would do.....burn the f'n tag.
So i take it that if you would draw blood or gut shot 2 bucks and never find them, then YOU would continue going after bucks?
What's your personal choice not what is ethical?
not directed at u....know what u would do...i know what i would do....just askin in general.
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Re: Question????
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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10/31/08 02:55 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like.
but do u burn the tag? its a general personal question...what would u do?
Can you not tell from my replies what i would do.....burn the f'n tag.
So i take it that if you would draw blood or gut shot 2 bucks and never find them, then YOU would continue going after bucks?
What's your personal choice not what is ethical?
not directed at u....know what u would do...i know what i would do....just askin in general.
And.......you would do? 
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 03:11 AM
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Re: Question????
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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10/31/08 03:51 AM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like.
but do u burn the tag? its a general personal question...what would u do?
When I pull the trigger and I know I have a good shot I normally spend that quite time waiting filling out the back of my license and cutting the notches in my tag and getting it on some string to get ready to tag my deer. So yeah, once I burned a tag, it was all filled out and the back dated. I honestly felt worse about not finding that deer then any care for the tag, but i hunt in a 5 deer county so I could understand someone in a 2 deer county having a different issue to contemplate..
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 02:33 PM
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go again?? havent seen this on here b4. what if theres no blood....maybe gut shot?
Gut shot w/ an arrow......you will be able to tell. Smell it and tell me what it smells like.
but do u burn the tag? its a general personal question...what would u do?
Can you not tell from my replies what i would do.....burn the f'n tag.
So i take it that if you would draw blood or gut shot 2 bucks and never find them, then YOU would continue going after bucks?
What's your personal choice not what is ethical?
not directed at u....know what u would do...i know what i would do....just askin in general.
And.......you would do?
i dont know...never lost a deer or missed a deer....how could anyone make a bad shot??? u should practice more if u r gonna do that.
JK JK JK...i would burn the tag. why u got on your horse and are arguing what one should do ......actually, its the law. that is what i was getting at. also if u wound a duck, dove, quail, or any other animal and dont find it, u have to include it in your daily bag limit/seasonal limit. wonder how many ppl havent done that.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/penalties/
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Waste of Game: It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit. It is an offense if a person intentionally takes a game bird, game animal, or fish and intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly, or with criminal negligence, fails to keep the edible portions of the bird, animal, or fish in an edible condition. For whitetail and mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and desert bighorn sheep, the violation is a Class A misdemeanor.
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Re: Question????
[Re: Smoker1]
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10/31/08 06:46 PM
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TPWD says it is only illegal to intetiontally or knowingly fail to make a reasonable EFFORT to retrieve the animal...sounds to me like as long as you made a reasonable EFFORT to find the animal, your not breakin the law. this is just what i understand from the post...
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Re: Question????
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10/31/08 07:16 PM
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Bingo, we have a correct answer to the question, as far as LEGALITIES ARE CONCERNED. Quote:
Waste of Game: It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit. It is an offense if a person intentionally takes a game bird, game animal, or fish and intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly, or with criminal negligence, fails to keep the edible portions of the bird, animal, or fish in an edible condition. For whitetail and mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and desert bighorn sheep, the violation is a Class A misdemeanor.
The key word here is Intentionally/Knowingly. I witnessed a GW on one of the TP&W Drawing Hunts, tell another hunter to go ahead and shoot another animal, after he and the hunter made a reasonable search for the animal.
Now, was the question as originally asked in the OP directed toward LEGALITIES or ETHICS????????
Some folks will burn a tag in such a situation, but if all the legalities are observed, neither hunter is right or wrong. JMO.
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Re: Question????
[Re: Johnny_J_JaMata]
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10/31/08 08:50 PM
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say u shoot a deer and dont recover it. do u still burn a tag on it?
Here we go again......If you drew or found blood, BURN THE TAG! If your not confident in yourself or the settings of your weapon then you should still be at the range shooting or flinging arrows, JMO.
Are you kidding me?....burn the tag?....If all efforts are made to recover the animal then you have done your due diligence....We should all endevor to become flawless...however, some times s*&@ happens. 
Think you can/Think you can't/Either way you're right 
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10/31/08 10:48 PM
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I'm with jgiles, I dont burn the tag unless I find the animal. Havent lost one yet with the gun but a couple does on an archery hunt. I even used a tracking dog on one doe without success.
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Re: Question????
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11/03/08 03:02 AM
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did yall not read this???? its the law...u must include it in your seasonal bag limit. u must burn the tag. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/penalties/from TPWD: Waste of Game: It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit . It is an offense if a person intentionally takes a game bird, game animal, or fish and intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly, or with criminal negligence, fails to keep the edible portions of the bird, animal, or fish in an edible condition. For whitetail and mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and desert bighorn sheep, the violation is a Class A misdemeanor.
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Re: Question????
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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11/03/08 03:21 AM
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did yall not read this???? its the law...u must include it in your seasonal bag limit. u must burn the tag.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/penalties/
from TPWD:
Waste of Game: It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit . It is an offense if a person intentionally takes a game bird, game animal, or fish and intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly, or with criminal negligence, fails to keep the edible portions of the bird, animal, or fish in an edible condition. For whitetail and mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and desert bighorn sheep, the violation is a Class A misdemeanor.
not sure you read it, the law says: (in stupid people words)
look for your deer, more than a 20 min search if you have to, come back the next day if you have to, do some walking, polish up on your tracking skills, call someone with a tracking dog if you can, still can't find the deer, keep your tag and hang it on the next one 
You can kill a fly with a sledgehammer.
But do you really need to son?
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