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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: John Humbert] #4694945 10/27/13 06:05 PM
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He leased based on the fact he could take his kids! Now they changed it mid-flight. I think that's BS and I would have pulled out too. And I'm sure it got heated after the LO pulled this chicken----- move. Ya it's his land but I say whatever. This isn't a good thing to do.


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I would demand a refund, and if he refused to refund and still refused to let your little girl come out then I'd skip the season and file a civil law suit. Uou been hunting there for 5 years with your little girl. He can't surprize you with a rule like that on the day you show up, with your child. That is a bunch of bull.

Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: Salter4175] #4694952 10/27/13 06:09 PM
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My kid was sitting in the room when he said kids were no longer allowed. The land owner has become a very shady person in the last 6 months to everyone on the lease. The heated discussion was something that has been coming for a while, last night was just what broke the camels back.

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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: stxranchman] #4694965 10/27/13 06:16 PM
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Could be more to the story if hes been acting weird for awhile. Like more money offered.

Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: Regular Guy] #4694978 10/27/13 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: Regular Guy
I would demand a refund, and if he refused to refund and still refused to let your little girl come out then I'd skip the season and file a civil law suit. Uou been hunting there for 5 years with your little girl. He can't surprize you with a rule like that on the day you show up, with your child. That is a bunch of bull.

X2, especially if it is in the lease contract that kids can hunt with the parents. If it is stated in the contract, and the landowner changes the rules after you paid, he is in breech. Get your $ back, or tell him honor the contract. If he does not honor it, take him to small claims court to get your $ back.


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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: unclebubba] #4694985 10/27/13 06:27 PM
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Think all the details are still not out about this yet popcorn


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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: stxranchman] #4695003 10/27/13 06:34 PM
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All the details are out, this blind sided me last night. I have been told i will be given my money back and i have been in contact with the other members of the lease and i may not be the only member to get off the lease do to the new rule.

Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: Salter4175] #4695017 10/27/13 06:43 PM
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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: Salter4175] #4695019 10/27/13 06:44 PM
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3 sides to every story.

And for the sue happy people you're the reason lo's don't want to lease their land. I feel we are missing a huge part of the story/truth

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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: Salter4175] #4695044 10/27/13 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: Salter4175
T... and the land owner and his wife got irritated and said no more kids. ....


Sounds a little strange that the LO and his wife seem to be hanging out with the hunters and their kids. confused2


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Maybe lo is hunting too

Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: aeb] #4695057 10/27/13 07:06 PM
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T... and the land owner and his wife got irritated and said no more kids. ....


Sounds a little strange that the LO and his wife seem to be hanging out with the hunters and their kids. confused2

More like the LO and wife were left with childsitting is the way I read that....confused2


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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: 5Redman8] #4695085 10/27/13 07:19 PM
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Did yall have written agreements..??If yes then what were the agreements...Banning kids after they have the money is chicken chit...They prolly knew they were going got do this way before...

Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: easton1025] #4695101 10/27/13 07:33 PM
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The LO was hunting with us also. I am not sure what happen on the trip this summer with the other kid that made them come to this decision. I was just told it was because the other kid was annoying. We did not have a written agreement (mistake on my part) but we did have a verbal agreement about the kids being allowed. The LO could have went about this a bunch of different ways. I could understand no kids opening weekend or something like that but to say one week before opening weekend that kids are no longer allowed is total BS

Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: stxranchman] #4695106 10/27/13 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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T... and the land owner and his wife got irritated and said no more kids. ....


Sounds a little strange that the LO and his wife seem to be hanging out with the hunters and their kids. confused2

More like the LO and wife were left with childsitting is the way I read that....confused2



That's was I was thinking. Probably they had things to do and were upset because they weren't going to leave unattended strange children in their house. And probably wasn't the first time.

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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: John Humbert] #4695124 10/27/13 07:42 PM
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I would hunt, take my game as opportunity presented itself and move on. There are plenty of weekend hunts to take a kid on for this year. I realize camp and stuff makes the package but it's their place, their rules. No place we lease lasts forever.


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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: John Humbert] #4695126 10/27/13 07:43 PM
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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: cameron00] #4695169 10/27/13 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: cameron00
You're not wrong and the landowner isn't wrong either. Assuming you didn't have a written contract stating your children are allowed out there, of course.

Their land, their rules. Your money, your decision.


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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: Salter4175] #4695189 10/27/13 08:14 PM
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Was there a contract or agreement between LO and hunters? Have never seen a contract that doesn't mention kids( either way). If kids were allowed on paper, then he is in breech of contract and will have to pay your money back. If it was a verbal agreement, then chalk it up to lesson learned. Always get a written agreement!!


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This is interesting. In the end it's the landowners rules, don't matter the time. Take it or leave it.
I don't think I would have had a heated discussion about it, would have asked some questions and seen if you could have worked something out about bringing your kid once or twice during the week without the other hunters there. Then after this year just tell him you would be leaving if the no kid policy is still in effect.
I think if you could have kept a cool head something could have been worked out or gave it a few days then go back without your kid and talk adult to adult about it.

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I'm sorry you can no longer take your daughter to the lease. Don't agree with the owners decision but I think with less than one week left till opening morning unless I could get my money back I would definitely be hunting this year and would find another one next year.

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Think all the details are still not out about this yet popcorn


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Re: Lost our lease last night!!! One week before gun season starts!!! [Re: 5Redman8] #4696284 10/28/13 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: 5Redman8
You didn't lose your lease....you gave it up.

You could still hunt but you have chosen not to do so.

If you can't hunt without your family/kid....it is your choice.

Landowner has the right to set the rules and you follow or leave.
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