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Question about AR15
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10/16/13 01:17 PM
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I have an AR15 5.56 and was wondering what upper I can get to make it an all around good gun for dispatching hogs.
I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 01:30 PM
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What upper do you have now? It will probably do the trick. All about shot placement and what type of bullet used.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 01:33 PM
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What upper do you have now? It will probably do the trick. All about shot placement and what type of bullet used. I have the nato 5.56/223 I dont want to thread the needle if im off an inch or two I want somthing that will make them drt
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I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 02:05 PM
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6x45mm 1:9 twist shoots 80 - 90 grain pills, very easily to reload.
In fact a reload only proposition.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 02:13 PM
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Just get a 6.8 and be done with it.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 02:21 PM
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the one you have is fine kills them dead
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 03:28 PM
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I'm not a big fan of the .223/5.56 for hogs either. It works, but I just like having more bite. My favorite is a .308, but that isn't an option in your case. I'd go with the 6.8 SPC.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 03:35 PM
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I'm not a big fan of the .223/5.56 for hogs either. It works, but I just like having more bite. My favorite is a .308, but that isn't an option in your case. I'd go with the 6.8 SPC. would it be worth it to just buy a ar10 308 then get a new upper? what is the ceapest ar10 verses 6.8 upper
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 04:07 PM
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your post has the sulution, .203, dont think it is legal,
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 04:28 PM
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Go with a .30RAR upper. 150 feet per second slower that a .308 with a 150 grain bullet. Ballistics very similar, very accurate and recoil is so much less than a .308. That in an AR15 platform makes it lighter in weight than the .308 in the AR10 platform.
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Re: Question about AR15
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Go with a .30RAR upper. 150 feet per second slower that a .308 with a 150 grain bullet. Ballistics very similar, very accurate and recoil is so much less than a .308. That in an AR15 platform makes it lighter in weight than the .308 in the AR10 platform. I dont want to sound lazy but I know very little about guns can you link me to one I have in the past purchased the wrong stuff.
I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 04:33 PM
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Mine is the R15 model sold by Remington Arms. I added a pic. I've killed several pigs and deer and some blackbucks with it.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 05:13 PM
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Get a 6.8 SPCII or 6.8x43 upper, NOT a 6.8 SPCI, a couple of 6.8 magazines and some ammo. Drop the upper on your lower, add some optics and go kill pigs dead. When you want to plink or shoot cheaper, replace the 5.56 upper.
Gives you two guns on one lower and you can only shoot one at a time, anyway.
Best info on the 68forum.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 06:55 PM
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theirs some good advice in several posts above. .223 is small cal. & doesnt leave a good blood trail, it will do the job, usualy keep my shots 50yrds ot less thick stuff pistal works best .357 or bigger
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/16/13 10:54 PM
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Just get a 6.8 and be done with it. THIS
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 01:21 AM
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I considered the 6.8 loadings but got the .30RAR without knowing a lot about it. It turned out to be a good decision.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 02:32 AM
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I have killed 100+ hogs with my 556 but I have lost a few 100 more in the process. Last year I switched it up to a 6.8SPC and shoot 120 grain SST and now over 90% never take a step. Most of my shots are inside of 50 yards but I have dropped them out to 200 yards. There is no doubt the 308 has more punch but for the extra weight you'll be carrying around, I just assume stay with my 6.8SPC.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 11:25 AM
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 11:33 AM
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One shot from Kermit, my trusty 6.8 and DRT....what else do you want?
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 01:07 PM
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As many others have said, get a 6.8 SPCII
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 01:25 PM
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there was a link to an 6.8 upper for $500 does anyone have that link?
I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 02:48 PM
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You can find all of the info you need on 68forums.com
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 04:09 PM
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I have a DMR setup in .223 Wylde. I built it as a hunting rifle and quickly became disappointed and quit trusting it for that purpose. It's great for coyotes, pigs and other critters that I may encounter driving around, but if I'm specifically going HUNTING I have a lot more faith in the .25-06 bolt gun.
While I love the AR15 platform, I've had to accept that as a hunting rifle it's practical range is essentially limited to 200 yards in almost any chambering. It just doesn't do what bolt rifles do as well as bolt rifles, so if you try to make it act and dress like a bolt rifle I think you're handicapping it. You're 5.56/.223 upper really wants to wear a 1x4 scope, not a 3x9.
If you want something that is enough medicine for pigs, 6.8 SPCII is a GREAT option but it can be expensive to feed. .300 BO is easy to suppress, all parts except for the barrel are completely interchangeable, plenty of punch for pigs at close range but, again, it can be expensive to feed and difficult to find good hunting ammo.
Finally getting to the point, I think that if you have a .223 upper set up for day gunning, a 7.62x39 upper set up for night (or day/night) gunning and your grandfather's .30-06 you have everything covered. Political hiccups aside, there will always be a plethora of x39 ammunition available relatively inexpensively. Hornady offers an outstanding selection in its steel cased SST and you can buy plinking ammo for about $0.25 per round.
.300 AAC BO = ~$1.10/round
6.8 = ~$1.00/round
In other words, part of what ARs do far better than your grandad's .30-06 is "fun shooting". It's not necessarily THAT fun if a 30 round magazine is $30.
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 04:22 PM
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I have a DMR setup in .223 Wylde. I built it as a hunting rifle and quickly became disappointed and quit trusting it for that purpose. It's great for coyotes, pigs and other critters that I may encounter driving around, but if I'm specifically going HUNTING I have a lot more faith in the .25-06 bolt gun.
While I love the AR15 platform, I've had to accept that as a hunting rifle it's practical range is essentially limited to 200 yards in almost any chambering. It just doesn't do what bolt rifles do as well as bolt rifles, so if you try to make it act and dress like a bolt rifle I think you're handicapping it. You're 5.56/.223 upper really wants to wear a 1x4 scope, not a 3x9.
If you want something that is enough medicine for pigs, 6.8 SPCII is a GREAT option but it can be expensive to feed. .300 BO is easy to suppress, all parts except for the barrel are completely interchangeable, plenty of punch for pigs at close range but, again, it can be expensive to feed and difficult to find good hunting ammo.
Finally getting to the point, I think that if you have a .223 upper set up for day gunning, a 7.62x39 upper set up for night (or day/night) gunning and your grandfather's .30-06 you have everything covered. Political hiccups aside, there will always be a plethora of x39 ammunition available relatively inexpensively. Hornady offers an outstanding selection in its steel cased SST and you can buy plinking ammo for about $0.25 per round.
.300 AAC BO = ~$1.10/round
6.8 = ~$1.00/round
In other words, part of what ARs do far better than your grandad's .30-06 is "fun shooting". It's not necessarily THAT fun if a 30 round magazine is $30. I have a sig m400 5.56 nato with a n750 night vision scope I wanted a good upper for thumping hogs at night I will not be shooting any further then 100 yards.
I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: Question about AR15
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10/17/13 04:36 PM
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6.8 is a good choice. I chose the 300 Blackout route because all it requires is just swapping out the barrel. You can use everything else that you already have now (mags, bolt, etc).
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