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Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail #4475006 08/13/13 08:17 PM
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Testing the 9mm Federal Hydra Shok out of my Sig Saurer p938..this is a failed jug test and i will be doing another one soon with the same handgun and ammunition..


almost did a different kind of bullet testing last night, i heard some noise on my back porch and found this guy out there..i try not to harm anything if i dont have to, for now we will see if we can co-exist

Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: FlowerOf Life] #4475113 08/13/13 08:50 PM
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Looks like the bullet performed pretty well to me.

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it definitely proved to be an effective round(it came out HOT!)..i would expect a bit more out of the new hydra shok though as far as expansion is concerned..i have tested the old 115 grain hydra shok extensively and will continue to trust that round over this one till i can get some better results..

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doesn't look like it failed it opened up, what are you wanting out of the bullet?

Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: DfwTexas] #4475246 08/13/13 09:32 PM
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if the hydra shock isn't cutting it for you, go with Winchester rangers, federal hst, or speer gold dots, Winchester pdx1. are the ones that I use in a lot of calibers

Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: DfwTexas] #4475252 08/13/13 09:33 PM
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this is 45acp..
but i would exspect the new 9mm Hydra Shok to look something like that after expansion..
i am hoping with a few more tests i can get some perfectly expanded rounds..the old 115 grain Hydra Shok opened up every time i tested it..

i really prefer 9mm rounds in the 147 grain weight personally..

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Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: FlowerOf Life] #4475515 08/13/13 10:53 PM
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What did you shoot the 45s into? I've dug a bunch of them out of clay banks, dirt hills, etc that didn't expand anything like that. I've dug some out of wood backstops that didn't expand at all. They just plugged with wood. I know that clay, dirt, and wood don't simulate living flesh. That's why I ask.


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Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: PrimitiveHunter] #4475550 08/13/13 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: PrimitiveHunter
What did you shoot the 45s into? I've dug a bunch of them out of clay banks, dirt hills, etc that didn't expand anything like that. I've dug some out of wood backstops that didn't expand at all. They just plugged with wood. I know that clay, dirt, and wood don't simulate living flesh. That's why I ask.


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i have had similar experiences with Hp 45 acp ammunition..i shot a VHS player and couldn't penetrate a 1/8th inch thick piece of metal inside it with some honady +p hollow points..kinda crazy..i tend to trust FMJ the most when it comes to 45..penetrates and shoots the best for me..

Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: FlowerOf Life] #4475579 08/13/13 11:15 PM
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I will only shoot FMJ 45 ACP after some poor performance I have seen from ballistic tip and Hollow points.

I tried to euthanize a Ram using Hornady zmax 45 acp at point blank, and it didn't penetrate the skull. I felt horrible.

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Although they are both part of ATK, I believe the bullets are sufficiently different to merit trying Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel ammo in the 938 instead of the Federal HST.


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Re: Federal Hydra Shok 9mm Jug Test Fail [Re: Core-Lokt] #4475911 08/14/13 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: Core-Lokt
Although they are both part of ATK, I believe the bullets are sufficiently different to merit trying Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel ammo in the 938 instead of the Federal HST.

HST and Hydroshck are different bullet designs, the HST was designed to replace the Hydoshock. The Gold Dot Short Barrel was specifically desgned to compensate for the loss of velocity in shorter barrels. I belive that it's exactly that loss in velocity that that is causing subpar performance for the OP.


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Hydroshock was cutting edge design. . . in 1990.

Lots better stuff out there. Water will over-represent expansion, btw.

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I did a test on a 175lb boar and he dropped like a rock. His 150lb brother took three hardball rounds.


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Originally Posted By: Core-Lokt
Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel

Good luck tracking a box down.


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Originally Posted By: nsmike
Originally Posted By: Core-Lokt
Although they are both part of ATK, I believe the bullets are sufficiently different to merit trying Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel ammo in the 938 instead of the Federal HST.

HST and Hydroshck are different bullet designs, the HST was designed to replace the Hydoshock. The Gold Dot Short Barrel was specifically desgned to compensate for the loss of velocity in shorter barrels. I belive that it's exactly that loss in velocity that that is causing subpar performance for the OP.


this ^ you are wanting HST performance out of hyra-shok, which is the old technology

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