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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: stxranchman] #4613149 09/29/13 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Now they are skyrocketing with that comment.....


You don't mean that. You need any extra guides this year? Baby needs shoes.

Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: kyle1974] #4613174 09/29/13 09:29 PM
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Now they are skyrocketing with that comment.....


You don't mean that. You need any extra guides this year? Baby needs shoes.

Baby should be wearing the most expensive shoes known to mankind with all the lease money you are not going to spend this year.... grin


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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: stxranchman] #4613220 09/29/13 09:41 PM
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I didn't realize we were on this forum just to hurt other people's feelings..... violin

Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: kyle1974] #4613231 09/29/13 09:44 PM
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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: stxranchman] #4613252 09/29/13 09:48 PM
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AR's are great for the people that don't have them, and suck for the people that do. Take me for instance, I think it was great for Etx, but sure don't want to see it in West Texas. grin

Personally, I think that it had helped in some areas that are notorious for shooting young deer. I just don't like being told which deer I can and cannot shoot, but for some reason, it doesn't bother me for them to tell me how many I can shoot confused2

Now we're getting somewhere!

Maybe I could get them for my neighbor to the north that has 9 blinds and 6 hunters on 150 acres!

The TPWD would never do that to me........you still want to lease a spot since I have 3 open blinds? grin


I thought that was your Craigslist ad that was day leasing them???

Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: kyle1974] #4613401 09/29/13 10:30 PM
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If you shoot a 12.5" buck LF is the fine the same as if it was HF?

Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: don k] #4613508 09/29/13 11:01 PM
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No fine for MLD II or MLD III

Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: kyle1974] #4613514 09/29/13 11:03 PM
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Hopefully..on HF you should have to pay restitution & restocking fee.....if I could pick which deer they restock the place with, a small fine would be a win-win.

Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: kyle1974] #4613531 09/29/13 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: kyle1974
Just curious why this isn't a state wide regulation yet? There are a few counties that could benefit from it. How do they determine which counties get it, and which don't?


Densities. ..high densities equal more deer = more tags for that county


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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: stxranchman] #4613533 09/29/13 11:07 PM
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My buddy has a small farm in Colorado county (one of the original AR counties)

Last year they killed the two biggest bucks ever and have killed better deer every year since the AR's went into effect.


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Having three and four hunters per hundred acres doesn't help deer population either. See that a lot on leases advertised for east Tx.


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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: John Humbert] #4616407 09/30/13 08:41 PM
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Kyle, here one of those mature (by your standards) <13" deer.




Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: kyle1974] #4616782 09/30/13 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: kyle1974
stx is one of those old skool kinda fellars.... a spike is a spike is a spike, like an 8 is always a crappy slick 8 is a crappy slick 8...



so what are there more of, <13" mature bucks, or these....




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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: rifleman] #4616789 09/30/13 10:07 PM
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Kyle, here one of those mature (by your standards) <13" deer.





crazy looking buck, lol


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: rifleman] #4616840 09/30/13 10:22 PM
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I think those funny looking ones has something to do with genetics. rofl


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I think those funny looking ones has something to do with genetics. rofl


An you can't change the genetics on LF, so they are just SOL!!! stir


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If its to increase mature bucks and betterment of the herd, why doesn't the entire state just suspend ALL deer hunting for 4 or 5 years?

That way there will be plenty of mature deer running around


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Re: Why aren't more counties adopting the 13" rule? [Re: txshntr] #4616895 09/30/13 10:34 PM
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I think those funny looking ones has something to do with genetics. rofl


An you can't change the genetics on LF, so they are just SOL!!! stir


They could use something like braces, or "stretchers", just think of the new "economic" opportunities that could be available in this field. rofl


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Originally Posted By: Redneck Messiah
If its to increase mature bucks and betterment of the herd, why doesn't the entire state just suspend ALL deer hunting for 4 or 5 years?

That way there will be plenty of mature deer running around


overpopulated already.


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I like how everyone always references "the one " mature buck that won't meet ARs but don't ever mention the dozens of ones that survived to maturity and were 13+" because if the restrictions.


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Here's my solution. In areas of the state with many highly fragmented and subdivided, small acreage tracks, TPWD should form Game Management Units like many western states have done.

After a series of surveys have been conducted they will decide on the number of tags to be issued for that unit. Then a lottery will be held to decide who gets drawn and who doesn't. If you're lucky enough to get drawn then you can shoot whatever you like but, once you burn your tag, you're done for the season.

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Are you talking about public land draws or private land draws? If private, who gets the permit, the landowner or the hunter? If to the landowner, is the tag/permit assignable to another individual, hunter? If so, tags will be sold to the highest bidder. If the hunter gets it, where will he hunt? Prices for leased property will bottom out, being that no one will lease unless he/she has a tag in hand. It might work under a "ranching for wildlife" program similar to that of Colorado. It's not a bad idea, just a lot of logistics to sort through. However, someone will still be disgruntled no matter what system is put into place.

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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
Here's my solution. In areas of the state with many highly fragmented and subdivided, small acreage tracks, TPWD should form Game Management Units like many western states have done.

After a series of surveys have been conducted they will decide on the number of tags to be issued for that unit. Then a lottery will be held to decide who gets drawn and who doesn't. If you're lucky enough to get drawn then you can shoot whatever you like but, once you burn your tag, you're done for the season.

No more AR's.

Something similar was tried in the late 60's or around the early 70's in Webb County(maybe a couple of more IRRC). In order to get a buck permit you had to have 200 acres of contiguous land IRRC. Every 200 acres you owned got you one permit. It went over like a fart in church back then.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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Here's my solution. In areas of the state with many highly fragmented and subdivided, small acreage tracks, TPWD should form Game Management Units like many western states have done.

After a series of surveys have been conducted they will decide on the number of tags to be issued for that unit. Then a lottery will be held to decide who gets drawn and who doesn't. If you're lucky enough to get drawn then you can shoot whatever you like but, once you burn your tag, you're done for the season.

No more AR's.

Something similar was tried in the late 60's or around the early 70's in Webb County(maybe a couple of more IRRC). In order to get a buck permit you had to have 200 acres of contiguous land IRRC. Every 200 acres you owned got you one permit. It went over like a fart in church back then.


In the 1960's in Taylor county you got a doe permit for X number of acres. Today there are so many deer that even the 5 acres ranchitos would get permits.


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