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rattlesnake strike range #4604473 09/26/13 06:36 PM
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How far can a rattler strike? I am curious to know in particular, how high they are capable of striking. I am wondering if my snake boots are good enough protection or if I should consider chaps.

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Depends how big the snake is. You will hear people say they can strike "half the length of their body", but I can assure you, they can go farther than that.

For most encounters, snake boots are sufficient. A snake will typically strike out, not up, if it encounters a large animal like a human or cow. If the terrain consist of hills, felled timber, or other items that require elevation changes, you are at a higher risk of being struck above the knee. But for most hunters, protection from the knee area down is sufficient.


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^ What he said.

I've always had the mindset that a snake can strike the distance of his body. That may be a little much, but better safe than sorry. I wouldn't worry about a strike above the knees assuming the terrain is flat.


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Half to two thirds of their body length. Some young snakes will move the entire body forward an few inches if they strike from time to time, but the above rule applies. The exceptions are striking down a slight incline or situations where the snake loses control of its stance and falls, which can also add a few inches. Boots are fine. The best protection you have is your brain; plenty of people are bitten on the hand, snake boot or not, being unable to resist messing with the animal.

The strike is more of a straightening of the coil than a lunge. The action tends to put as much backward force as it does forward, so in most cases, even if there is enough energy in the strike to carry it beyond what I described above, the action is absorbed in the body. Longer snakes do not have longer strike range in ratio to body length, in fact the opposite is true.

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Re: rattlesnake strike range [Re: txshntr] #4605300 09/26/13 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: txshntr
Depends how big the snake is. You will hear people say they can strike "half the length of their body", but I can assure you, they can go farther than that.

For most encounters, snake boots are sufficient. A snake will typically strike out, not up, if it encounters a large animal like a human or cow. If the terrain consist of hills, felled timber, or other items that require elevation changes, you are at a higher risk of being struck above the knee. But for most hunters, protection from the knee area down is sufficient.

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Re: rattlesnake strike range [Re: banderapass1] #4605349 09/26/13 10:52 PM
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For most encounters, tennis shoes are sufficient. I look for snakes both for a living and for work. I've caught hundreds of venomous snakes on three continents. I've stepped on exactly one rattlesnake. It didn't strike. Even when they do strike clothed individuals, the fangs lose a lot of their venom load into the fabric of the shoe or pant leg. Most fangs never make it to the skin. Snake boots are a gimmick, but if they make you feel better, wear them. Most snakebites are because people are trying to catch or kill the snake. Past that, if it's a legit bite and they weren't inviting it, most bites are because people step on them barefoot or in sandals.

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Originally Posted By: UTAhunter
For most encounters, tennis shoes are sufficient. I look for snakes both for a living and for work. I've caught hundreds of venomous snakes on three continents. I've stepped on exactly one rattlesnake. It didn't strike. Even when they do strike clothed individuals, the fangs lose a lot of their venom load into the fabric of the shoe or pant leg. Most fangs never make it to the skin. Snake boots are a gimmick, but if they make you feel better, wear them. Most snakebites are because people are trying to catch or kill the snake. Past that, if it's a legit bite and they weren't inviting it, most bites are because people step on them barefoot or in sandals.

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Interesting insight thanks. Am more worried about my dog then myself.


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I think they can strike about 25 yards. So I stay 50 yards away smile

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I think they can strike about 25 yards. So I stay 50 yards away smile

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All good info, thanks

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Originally Posted By: UTAhunter
For most encounters, tennis shoes are sufficient. I look for snakes both for a living and for work. I've caught hundreds of venomous snakes on three continents. I've stepped on exactly one rattlesnake. It didn't strike. Even when they do strike clothed individuals, the fangs lose a lot of their venom load into the fabric of the shoe or pant leg. Most fangs never make it to the skin. Snake boots are a gimmick, but if they make you feel better, wear them. Most snakebites are because people are trying to catch or kill the snake. Past that, if it's a legit bite and they weren't inviting it, most bites are because people step on them barefoot or in sandals.

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Seen two guys get bit through starched pants. I have been struck 3 times. I would not want to rely on jeans and tennis shoes. Much different when you are hunting the snakes than when you come up on one unexpected. Not arguing that tennis shoes won't stop most snakes, but the few strikes I have seen would have hit above the shoe line.

I disagree that snake boots are a gimmick. I think they are a good precaution for people that will be going through areas that snakes are prevailent.


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Originally Posted By: txshntr
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For most encounters, tennis shoes are sufficient. I look for snakes both for a living and for work. I've caught hundreds of venomous snakes on three continents. I've stepped on exactly one rattlesnake. It didn't strike. Even when they do strike clothed individuals, the fangs lose a lot of their venom load into the fabric of the shoe or pant leg. Most fangs never make it to the skin. Snake boots are a gimmick, but if they make you feel better, wear them. Most snakebites are because people are trying to catch or kill the snake. Past that, if it's a legit bite and they weren't inviting it, most bites are because people step on them barefoot or in sandals.

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Seen two guys get bit through starched pants. I have been struck 3 times. I would not want to rely on jeans and tennis shoes. Much different when you are hunting the snakes than when you come up on one unexpected. Not arguing that tennis shoes won't stop most snakes, but the few strikes I have seen would have hit above the shoe line.

I disagree that snake boots are a gimmick. I think they are a good precaution for people that will be going through areas that snakes are prevailent.

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Originally Posted By: chaseh2003
How far can a rattler strike? I am curious to know in particular, how high they are capable of striking. I am wondering if my snake boots are good enough protection or if I should consider chaps.


The bite on my left leg is 20 inches high.


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Now I do worry about dogs. They don't have the protection from clothing we receive. If I ran bird dogs I would definitely get them vaccinated. It works.

With regards to looking for snakes, my encounter rate is much higher than most bird hunters. Tales of snakes striking are more than exaggerated. Do they strike, absolutely. Can they strike with a lot of force, very high, yes, absolutely. How many people have every actually seen a snake bite through jeans or actually have seen a bite from a snake through jeans? I should mention I worked venomous snakes for a living at the Fort Worth Zoo for a period of time. I do not fear snakes. Bees are far more dangerous than snakes. Show them respect and you won't be bitten.

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Now I do worry about dogs. They don't have the protection from clothing we receive. If I ran bird dogs I would definitely get them vaccinated. It works.

With regards to looking for snakes, my encounter rate is much higher than most bird hunters. Tales of snakes striking are more than exaggerated. Do they strike, absolutely. Can they strike with a lot of force, very high, yes, absolutely. How many people have every actually seen a snake bite through jeans or actually have seen a bite from a snake through jeans? I should mention I worked venomous snakes for a living at the Fort Worth Zoo for a period of time. I do not fear snakes. Bees are far more dangerous than snakes. Show them respect and you won't be bitten.


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Originally Posted By: txshntr

I will go catch a snake. You put on a pair of wranglers and let it strike you. We can test the theory. cheers


Sorry, I don't wear skinny jeans. wink

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I will go catch a snake. You put on a pair of wranglers and let it strike you. We can test the theory. cheers


Sorry, I don't wear skinny jeans. wink


You can wear shorts and tennis shoes if you want up


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I think I'm with most people on here. I'm real rational about rattlesnakes with the laptop in front of me, but when I see one in the field I shoot my way back to the truck, and rack my gun. I'm done for the day.

I haven't hunted in rattlesnake country in several years.


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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I think I'm with most people on here. I'm real rational about rattlesnakes with the laptop in front of me, but when I see one in the field I shoot my way back to the truck, and rack my gun. I'm done for the day.

I haven't hunted in rattlesnake country in several years.


hahahahhahaha Great answer!...my response is slightly different...I shoot myself back to the truck for more ammo, then end up snake hunting the rest of the day!!!

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Chaps are a waste, the boots are fine. I realize anything is possible but with the boots you probably have to worry more about getting struck by lightning. Get the lightest weight boots you can find.
Question- there was a rattlesnake round up years ago- I forget the area- but there were some guys walking around in the pit with regular old cowboy boots and the boots were stopping the snake bites. Now some of today's cowboy boots- Ostrich skin, etc- pretty thin- but on a regular old time pair- did they usually stop a rattler bite?

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A lot of them wear the thicker boots made of premium bull hide or elephant and have tall tops on the boots (just below the knee)...One trick they use to avoid a strike on the boot top...they raise the boot to show the snake the sole of the boot. Snake fangs are not going through the sole leather, it is too tough...plus the angle of the boot is wrong for the snake to get a direct hit....

I used that trick once when I got too close to a good sized rattler, of course...I also hopped backwards AWAY from that rattler as fast as I could...I left him be...no gun handy and didn't really want to go to the truck and get one then try to find that big rascal again...Me and a snake hunting buddy went back and found a small den nearby a few weeks later, the biggest one was about 4.5 feet long.

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I will go catch a snake. You put on a pair of wranglers and let it strike you. We can test the theory. cheers


Sorry, I don't wear skinny jeans. wink


You can wear shorts and tennis shoes if you want up



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very venomous. Snake boots needed to about at least your mid calf.


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I was hit by a Copperhead several years ago wearing snake boots. I'll tell you this. He hit with enough force that would certainly have gone through clothing. I was struck again this year opening morning for bow by a Rattler. Pretty mild hit, but I wouldnt wont to try this without my boots. Gimmick? I think not. They saved me at least once. I will continue to wear them as long as I hunt.



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