Reading your many posts, I do certainly disagree.....

Tell me how we know law abiding from a serial murderer if we don't stop them and investigate? Are you saying that as long as they aren't committing a crime at that very moment, then law enforcement shouldn't be concerned......I don't believe the majority of Americans would agree with you.

No doubt. You obviously have a low opinion of me. You can be as rude and insulting as you'd like. I don't mind.

I believe a majority of Americans also voted for Obama, not once but twice, for the office of President of these the United States, so pardon me if I give less than a rats posterior what a majority of people think.

I certainly wouldn't want you to have to use common sense. I, on the other hand, do.

Please tell me when any American citizen has ever open carried a rifle into a place where it was legal to open carry, and then murdered anyone. Ever.

I most certainly would have absolutely no issue with an officer checking me out if I was open carrying. Anytime I get pulled over, I immediately inform the officer that I am armed. I would give an officer permission to disarm me. But I'm a nice, polite, considerate individual, something you're apparently not versed in dealing with.

However, if someone is open carrying, and chooses to exercise his right to tell an officer it's none of his business, I support the carrier's right to do so.

At the point an individual carrying a rifle invokes his rights on a questioning officer, as we've seen dozens of times in these videos, it is completely obvious that the open carrier is coherent, sane, and not a danger to anyone's physical well being. At that point it becomes an officer and a citizen having a pissing match. And for the officer to win, which they often do, the officer abuses his power. That is what I have a problem with.

Do I think people should be rude a-holes to each other? No. But a citizen has the God-given right to tell an officer to get out of his business. An officer has no right to bully the citizen in return.

It has nothing to do with public safety, and everything to do with ego. These cops arresting open carriers are simply upset that the citizens aren't obeying them. The cops need to get over it. They are in the WRONG. Plain and simple.

As for you talking about the open carriers ruining it for everyone, if police wouldn't make such a huge deal about open carriers like they are doing something wrong, jacknut scared citizens would start to get used to guns being around.

As for your, what if its a serial murderer? Are you serious? What predator goes hunting armed citizens? They don't. They prey on weak, unarmed people. Children in schools, even.

But go ahead and insult me because I don't share your belief in police having authority over everyone.

They did and they will be the same ones voting in the next election. We have to be smart to keep our rights when a majority of the country has decided that the Constitution is an aging document with little value......The majority will most likely get their way in the end and we will be left holding the bag because we were foolish. Every time someone goes out in public with a gun and acts foolish, it adds to the liberals ammo supply. Don't take my word for it, read a little history, the past is an excellent insight into the future.

that is a "straw man" argument if I have ever heard one

Charles Whitman 1966.......Lee Harvey Oswald 1963......

Please show me a Texas Police Officer that is against law abiding citizens having and carrying guns......I think you will come up empty handed on that one.

Wrong question. Show me one Texas Police Officer that is against people having and carrying guns, EXCEPT where he expressly approves it to be ok? Concho! I think I, as well as every other citizen, should be allowed to own and carry any gun the police can carry, anywhere the police can carry. Because I believe police are fellow citizens, and citizens are all equal. And in my inexperienced, unintelligent, unknowledgeable opinion, equal citizens are not supposed to have different sets of laws applied to them.

Ok, you can continue to throw out the unintelligent insinuations all you want, disagreeing with each other doesn't make either of us unintelligent.......I totally disagree with your point of view on this subject matter but you have every right to have that view/opinion. The thing with most of these folks parading around with their little AR's or AK's is that they not only do so, but give advanced notice so as to be sure to get a police response........Anyone with any intelligence can see the motive and agenda here.......

Ok, you can continue to throw out the unintelligent insinuations all you want, disagreeing with each other doesn't make either of us unintelligent.......I totally disagree with your point of view on this subject matter but you have every right to have that view/opinion. The thing with most of these folks parading around with their little AR's or AK's is that they not only do so, but give advanced notice so as to be sure to get a police response........Anyone with any intelligence can see the motive and agenda here.......

Are you talking about my motive? Open carry demonstrators motive? Or your motive?

And please get back to me on the open carrying serial killers. You say I post unintelligent insinuations. You either tried to trick me into thinking those killers open carried, or you didn't even bother to fact check your emotional response. Hook a brother up with some knowledge, please. Because I am lacking the knowledge of the open carry serial killers.

And our opinions definitely differ. Nothing wrong with that. But I have an issue with your reasoning for your opinion, as it appears to be emotional rather than fact based. Please provide facts to back up your statement about not wanting to have open carrying due to the public safety.

"It's for the children" does nothing for me.

According to LEO that would be the right thing to do is inform them that you are open carry.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRteKrvRWc

With your holier than thou opinions you have irritated people that own guns and respect the 2ND Amendment, how do you think that will go over with the people that don't? Gun owners are a minority, if push comes to shove you will lose.

Hey at this point I couldn't care less what you or your open carry buddies do, the entire thing has been exposed as a big joke, one that could have consequences if someone makes the wrong assumption. These open carry guys remind me of the kids that would stand across the street and smoke cigarettes when I was in high school.....daring the vice principal to confront them.......children.

cdoan, the serial killer was just an example of what an open carry person could be......he could be a thief, molester, bank robber, check forger, or a law abiding citizen......my point is how would someone tell what, if any criminal background an open carry person has unless you check. I fully understand that if the person doesn't want to speak with the officer and be cooperative, and he isn't violating the law, then there is not really anything the officer can do but watch. There in lies the problem, spending taxpayer money for an officer to watch a silly stunt.......

Maybe you should stop viewing responsible, law-abiding adults as children that you need watch over.

And it's obvious you look at open carry demonstrators as a joke. I personally take bully cops abusing their powers to punish law-abiding citizens as a very serious matter.

YOU are the one that said they could be a serial killer. Keep throwing out emotional hyperbole. I am only interested in facts.

Since you used a serial killer example as a legitimate reason why police should be harassing law-abiding citizens, I simply asked for ONE example.

Screw facts, though, just throw out some more BS.

I've never abused anyone so I wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about, never witnessed any officer I have known abusing citizens rights, maybe the abuse is something you dreamed up.......or maybe like the open carry folks you are just looking for a reason to yell "Look at Me!"

If police are questioning people that are walking around with rifles in public, it is because they are paid to protect the public, if for some reason you do not understand or refuse to understand the plain facts of living in a society, I can't help that.......like I said, wait a few months and there will most likely be a law to address the issue........