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Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/22/13 07:57 PM
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I am getting a bunch of runners in my St Augustine grass that are ending up on top of the grass instead of in the dirt. I would expect runners on the edges where the grass is thin but this is in the middle where the grass is full and very thick. What is causing this? I have never seen it like this before.
Having said that, shot placement is key and there is only one level of dead. Us east Texans can't afford turquoise and elk ivories for jewelry. So we use hog tushes and coon peckers.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/23/13 08:08 PM
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I believe you are correct. How thick is the grass. Do you fertilize?
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/23/13 08:11 PM
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I am mowing once a week, sometimes more often, depending on how tall the grass is. I do fertilize regularly and I cut the grass as high as I can. The grass is as thick as St Augustine gets I guess. Except on the edges there are no bare spots and its a SOB to find the sprinkler heads when they are not popped up.
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Having said that, shot placement is key and there is only one level of dead. Us east Texans can't afford turquoise and elk ivories for jewelry. So we use hog tushes and coon peckers.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/23/13 08:16 PM
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Maybe you are using too much ferts, mainly nitrogen. The nitrogen is triggering accelerated growth and its ran out of space to grow so its growing on top. Too much nitrogen is not necessarily a good thing. Using too much nitrogen will also cause you to cut more often. Slow down on the nitrogen and see what that does. Could be wrong , just a thought
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/23/13 08:35 PM
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once a week on the highest setting just isn't enough. When you have it on 5 you have to cut it 2-3 times per week to keep it looking pretty
PS......a sharp blade will help
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/23/13 08:37 PM
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That's a solid theory. I had to work real hard to get the yard back in shape after the winter. Had to hire a guy to mow and rake leaves while I was out for back surgery and he did a number on it.
I appreciate the feedback and any other thoughts you may have. In the meantime, I have a ton of material for sprigging. Been moving them to the backyard every couple of weeks with good success.
Having said that, shot placement is key and there is only one level of dead. Us east Texans can't afford turquoise and elk ivories for jewelry. So we use hog tushes and coon peckers.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/24/13 02:07 AM
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I have the same problem at times. I think you need to fertilize. Runners are growing and stretching out to find more nutrients.
JR
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/24/13 02:12 AM
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Enjoy them. The grass is healthy. That's what it is telling you.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/24/13 02:14 AM
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I have the same problem at times. I think you need to fertilize. Runners are growing and stretching out to find more nutrients.
JR What I always heard about Bermuda in a hay field.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/24/13 05:10 PM
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I was reading up a little on this and I did not find any more info. Basically the same a you see here. Some say need ferts, no ferts., bugs, watering times, not enough water,sharpen blade,its normal,etc. I would guess its doing this because the top layer is to dense, but isn't that normal with st Augustine? If you haven't you can also try to aerate to top layer a little. If you have not tried to yet there are attachments to your shoes and rollers that have spikes on them. Should help in getting the top layer of soil aerated and also help getting moisture down a little deeper.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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08/26/13 05:14 PM
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I appreciate the additional comments. It could be too much fertilizer for sure since I worked real hard to get it back in shape. I have been thinking about aerating with an actual machine this time. I used a hand tool that was designed for the task earlier this year with somewhat mixed results. It worked OK, but it didn't get deep enough that I felt it was doing much. I am watering every other day at around 530AM and the grass indicates that this is OK if maybe slightly not enough. No fungus or bug issues that I have seen, but you never know for sure.
The problem I have with more fertilizing is the grass is already growing super fast and is in much better shape than the neighbors . If I was to fertilize again soon, I don't know that I would get anything out of it other than a lot more time pushing the mower and more water usage.
Yeah, I have never mowed or been on St Augustine that wasn't dense unless it had gaps and it looked unhealthy. I did a bunch of looking like you did and there is no concrete answer. For now I will continue enjoying the lawn and hoping for more rain!
Having said that, shot placement is key and there is only one level of dead. Us east Texans can't afford turquoise and elk ivories for jewelry. So we use hog tushes and coon peckers.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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09/09/13 05:17 PM
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Enjoy them. The grass is healthy. That's what it is telling you. this.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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09/11/13 01:16 PM
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Having said that, shot placement is key and there is only one level of dead. Us east Texans can't afford turquoise and elk ivories for jewelry. So we use hog tushes and coon peckers.
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Re: Runners in St Augustine Grass
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09/11/13 01:51 PM
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My mom (who can not kill a plant if she tried) will drag a garden rake through it to pull out the runners, then relocate the runners to a bald patch to take root. She has a great yard.
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