Cameron, I am starting to think you might be more of a cat person.

Lack of enforcement.

That's the real problem here. First, if you're hunting on property that belongs to someone else, you are required by law, to have written permission on your person.

Secondly, If more doggers were held accountable with hefty fees/fines and jail, you'd see a whole lot less of this attitude that they demonstrate. Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

As for me, if I see a dog on my property and it's chasing so much as a butterfly, it's apt to end badly for the dog. My property is managed as a wildlife sanctuary. I enjoy all of the wildlife, including the stinking coons. There is no room for dogs or cats there. I will fiercely defend my right to manage my own personal wildlife sanctuary.

It's hard to limit out on double-droptine black B&C panthers with a bunch of stray dogs running around. Them being natural enemies and all...

I always thought I was shooting banded coyotes, thanks for ruining it for me....maybe that's why I was banned by the taxidermist (worse than being banned from the Woolworth - all of them)

Fair enough.

It's very clear that some of you are very ignorant. .... Used to be love thy neighbor. I'm sure plenty of you talking about killing another persons dog go to church on Sunday and claim to be Christians. People don't ask anymore because they are nervous to run into pr*cks like you. This country is goin to hell fast an I blame it on folks with the mentality that a lot of you have displayed. I hope that god puts you in a situation where you may feel the heartache that some owners have felt from that hounds being shot for doing no harm to anyone. A lot of you need to let a little more love into your life.

Wow. This one had new life breathed into it after a 3 month hiatus.
I spoke to a guy that knows/sort of knows the coon hunters.
I told him that I did not appreciate them being on my land.
They know where my place of residence is- yet they have never ventured over to ask permission to hunt.

The bulk of the responses here sem to fall into two camps-

1. Those who lease their hunting areas or depend on the graciousness of others who allow them to hunt on their land.
2. Those who own their own land.

So "love thy neighbor" only works one way.?

Right, everyone should just be allowed to trespass and do whatever they want. And the idiots that just leave dogs in the woods or let them run wild? Yeah, they're not to blame.

It's the landowners that are rightly protecting their property that are the bad guys here.

There's nothing Christian about trespassing and hunting where you're committing a criminal act.

Apparently you haven't read the threat throughout. "Love thy neighbor"? Really? We're talking about dogs coming onto our places that shouldn't be there and who probably would chase the cattle, etc. Stop hugging the bunnies and petting the trees, we live in the real world, not some fantasy land like you apparently live in.

If you read my previous post, I do not agree with trespassing. My issue is with that fact that several have voiced that they would shoot the dog. I believe if someone is on your property and They had the opportunity to ask your permission and didn't take it then by all means prosecute them. I just can't imagine shooting the dog because the owner wasn't responsible. I had a hound get into a pasture with some horses. The horses were trying to run him down, first thing I did was go to the owners house. I don't hunt with a lot of people because of their mentality about goin on to someone's property. I just hope that if my dog does get on to someone's property that they would give me the chance to come ask permission before shooting the dog dead for my mistake. Sorry if I've gotten heated I just can't understand killing the hound.

Smh, unfortunately that is the thinking of a farmer that hasn't seen a coonhound work. I have cattle, goats as sheep. If my dog runs cattle he won't be around long. Not hugging any bunnies over here pal.

Nope, just belittling folks with Christianity and hypocrisy. I assume you realize the irony of your anology and the lack of Christian comfort it provides...

Unfortunately, that is thinking of someone who isn't a farmer. Most strays and dogs that a farmer encounters is chasing his livestock or is being aggressive. After years of dealing with encounters that differ from your coon dogs, he isn't going to take the time to determine if this one dog is going to be an exception to the rule.

If the coon dog is so impressive to watch work, watching him obey should be simple. Control the dog and no worries.

I would have to agree with LP though. Should hit doggers in their pockets and I bet the dogs would learn about boundaries.

I think a big part of this is being overlooked.

The type of terrain the coon hunting takes place on.

I saw examples on this thread of laws in other states that give more protection to the dog like in Louisiana. I think if your hunting in the big woods and swamps then you don't have alot of these issues because generally that type of terrain is not going to be used for horses and livestock.

Perhaps that is why the practice of entering other peoples land for coon hunting isn't as big of deal to landowners in east Texas as it is in other parts of the state where the terrain is more suitable for livestock? Just an observation.

I'm done with it. Beating a dead horse. If my dogs cross I get permission. If my dog so happens to be treed on someone's place I hope they think before they shoot. Sorry for belittling anyone.

Its all good Redticker. to the forum.

We all get passionate at times about our beliefs and point of view.

Stick around long enough and you'll be on the same side of the fence with the ones your looking across at on this thread.

Ahhhh...no need to get your panties in a wad. We was just funning

If someone shot a dog that has an animal treed...that is just wrong. Unless it is my barn cat, then...

There are plenty of dog lovers on this forum. There are just more folks that believe in property rights and hate trespassers.

There are some dog lovers but there are also too many shoot first ask questions later. Someone mentioned s couple of dogs being shot and the shooter smashing the collars. Why ? Something to hide? Even if he was in the right which it sounded like he wasn't, that doesn't make it right. There's is difference between legal and ethically correct.

Someone eles mentioned how coondogs hunt. This also came to my mind in that you can't give commands to a dog that is a mile away and they also cannot read a map. Sad to see the sport dying off as it is.

So you agree that doggers should be allowed to go wherever the dogs and the hunt takes them?

If any of you have tried to run cattle or sheep in an area where they are few small ranchettes with a bunch of dogs, you would have a different opinion. The owners head off to work every day and after awhile the dogs start to roam, soon the start roaming in packs. They kill for the fun of it, not food or the hunt, they just kill livestock.

Talking to he owners will get you a visit from the sheriff's office when their dog turns up missing. Calling the sheriff isn't much better, they talk to the owner, and the when their dog turns up missing it will be your fault. It is best to ignore the rules and handle the situation like coyotes.

Is it right, nope, but who pays for the lost livestock? Not the dog owner, not even if you have photos of it running calves in the pasture. After a few thousand dollars in losses, your love for the neighbors or any other dog will disappear.

If your dog doesn't listen to your commands, don't turn him loose.

If you love your dog so much, don't turn him loose.

If you don't have enough property to run your dog on, don't turn him loose.

If you respect other landowners and their rights, don't turn you dang mutt loose!!!


It's real simple, people! If you don't own that particular property, and you don't have permission to be on it, then neither you or your dog belongs there. Doesn't matter that your sport is dwindling. Doesn't matter that your dog doesn't know better. You do know better, and you made the choice to let your dog run all over the place. YOU made that choice. YOU can accept the consequences. Keep blaming others for your actions, but the facts remain the same. It's your dog and your responsibility. Deal with it.

Dang me an you might be agreeing too much here lately.

Quit talking all that personal responsibility and common sense jibberish! people don't like to hear it

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