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 Could this happen again?
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05/04/13 12:38 AM
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firstshot425
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BOSTON, MA
National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.
One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.
April 20, 1775
NOTE: Better known as the battles of Lexington and Concord and the 1st shot heard round the world.
Last edited by firstshot425; 05/04/13 01:01 AM. Reason: Edited title
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Re: Could this happen again?
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#4231569
05/04/13 01:20 AM
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txhippo
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I think it will happen,I don't know when ?
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Re: Could this happen again?
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05/04/13 01:20 AM
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txhippo
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I think it will happen,I don't know when ?
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Re: Could this happen again?
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05/06/13 04:03 PM
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To this day, I still have pride for those who died to preserve our freedom. I am deeply troubled by those who would sell us out for government assistance.
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05/21/13 03:35 AM
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nomulligan
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good thing im from texas, if anything like this were to happen these days we could probably fend off the military with no problem haha
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05/21/13 02:16 PM
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Squealteam
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A revolution is long over due, this current terrorist group aka: " US Gov" should be put in their place and relise they derive their powers from the people, not from with the confines of the sen, congress, house of rep and the oval office. It used to be written that it was the rights of the citizens to strike fear in the gov, not the gov striking fear in its citizens.
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05/24/13 05:02 PM
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Savage388
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I sincerely hope I am wrong. I personally feel that there are not enough truly committed people to stand and fight against an oppressive government. I read these forums and posts daily and see all the replies to the effect of "from my cold dead hands!!" Most of these types of comments are coming from people who feel safe, secure and protected behind their computers while lounging in their recliners inside their middle class home.
Will you still feel that way when the power goes off. When you are having to carry water into your house from a pond or creek. What about you little ones who are crying because they are scared and hungry? Are you willing to kill a complete stranger who is "just doing as he was told" standing on you front porch with an arrest warrant for you because you are still holding onto your guns?
Those men at Lexington and Concord were truly committed. They knew that in order for America to grow into what they had envisioned, there would be blood shed and it just might be their blood.
I suppose I've just lost faith in modern men. I pray we will never again see civil unrest in The United States of America again. I also pray that if it must come to the point we must once again take up arms to remove a corrupt government, we will have enough men and women willing to loose everything (including their lives) to preserve the freedom that only we as Americans enjoy.
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Re: Could this happen again?
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05/24/13 11:09 PM
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Cub Flyer
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Savage;
Sadly it's true there are so few people left in this country that would standup for their beliefs. The proof of this is all around us, and we see it every day... So many Americans are willing to give lip service to their belief, but so few do anything more that talk.
Lets look at a few examples from history: The majority of American have a religion that they believe in. In fact religion is what brought the pilgrims here. God is banned from almost everywhere. A very small group spoke loudly, and the only reason God has been banned is those that believe chose to talk big about keeping God around, but when it come to actually defending God they sat at home thinking someone else will do something.
Today so many of us are fighting to keep our guns, So many talk big, while giving their money to the very people yelling to take guns away.
The time for a revolution is definitely here, but the time for bloodshed is not. But to be honest, I fear that any real revolution will fail, and not due to the overwhelming government. Any real revolution will be lost because few people are willing to do anything more than just talk...
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05/25/13 04:31 AM
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J.G.
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Yall got that right.
I think we are all way more comfortable in our day to day lives than the patriots of 1775. I'm talking bare luxuries like indoor toilets, running water, and wired in electricity. Those patriots knew nothing of such luxuries, so there was no electricity to be turned off, they already knew how to get water, they heated their homes with fire, they illuminated the night with candles and lanterns, many performed manual labor since they were less than 7 years old. They have been "uncomfortable" many times in their lives.
Today, many people are walking examples of what it means to go soft, and have no idea of the grit it takes to do the hard work, much less stand and fight when push comes to shove. Sadly, I think this is a moot point as I fear the softies are the majority, by a wide margin.
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05/28/13 01:23 AM
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dieselpwr
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not trying to ruffle any feathers, but savage, how do know that the majority of the folks hide behind their computers, fireman, how do you know that there are not those who don't know what manual labor is. I grew up, as did many in my area, that heated and cooked on a fire place, no a/c, conserved power bc of little money, lived off the land bc of the price of commercial commodities. most of us had running water, from pvt wells dug into the sand table from the nearby river. during school, I had shoes, and if I took good care of them, they lasted me into early parts of summer, but as most school boys I didn't have shoes in the summer, I ran around our 20 ac bare footed, cooled our house with window fans or just opening all the windows. I know in my area, still today, there are 100s that will stand and fight, but like you all have already said, the bleeding heart liberals out number the true red blooded americans. fortunately I have a son to carry my name, but he has been passified by his mother and step dad, that don't believe in gun roghts or gun ownership, that he will eventually fall into the libitarian groups, that will vote into office more politicians to continue to strip more of our rights away, till the constitution is no more than antique toilet paper scroll. there are red blooded americans out there, but its hard to draw them out bc they don't want to be singled out and stripped of their rights bc they "rocked boat". if an all out revolution started and continued into a years time frame, the "rich and powerfull" "the yuppies" will be straved out bc they don't know how to live off the land, dont know how to play hide and seek with the "bad guys". I do agree that their are not enough AT THIS TIME to sustain a fight with big brother and against our military, but I do not think that even the lowest ranking backwoods soldier will stay with his unit and fight against real americans, but yet defect across to American soil. again, I do not wish to ruffle feathers, but I think some people don't give credit, where credit is due. many lives will be lost many gallons of blood spilled, but hopefully the loss wont be for nothing in the end.
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Re: Could this happen again?
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05/28/13 02:18 AM
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bassguy
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I agree there are a huge number of COUCH POTATOE--- COMPUTER BOY--- LIBERAL---EAR RING wearing BAGGY PANTS wearing, want to be men, out there, but there are many in the military that despise what is going on in the country. Trust me they will back the constitution, not the gun grabbing, liberal, socialist that are in control. I honestly think the SLEEPING LION is about to wake up. God Bless America
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Re: Could this happen again?
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05/28/13 01:33 PM
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J.G.
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Dieselpwr,
How do I know? Because I go into their yards and houses a third of my life. You wouldn't believe how helpless some people have become, and the things they call us for. When the fit hits the shan the "theory of natural selection" is going to hit them like a train. That is in a big city. I also put in 11 years on my local, mostly rural, FD and when we were called it was usually someone that really needed help. Generally, that's how country folks are, just like what you've experienced in life, take care of yourself. But know that there are millions of people that are the polar opposite of you and I. They will fold up like a cheap suit if the government tries to bully them. Those of us "country folk" are by far the minority. I'm not saying everyone in the cities are weaklings, but the cities hold a bunch of sheep.
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Re: Could this happen again?
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06/05/13 10:37 PM
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Savage388
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not trying to ruffle any feathers, but savage, how do know that the majority of the folks hide behind their computers, fireman, how do you know that there are not those who don't know what manual labor is. I grew up, as did many in my area, that heated and cooked on a fire place, no a/c, conserved power bc of little money, lived off the land bc of the price of commercial commodities. most of us had running water, from pvt wells dug into the sand table from the nearby river. during school, I had shoes, and if I took good care of them, they lasted me into early parts of summer, but as most school boys I didn't have shoes in the summer, I ran around our 20 ac bare footed, cooled our house with window fans or just opening all the windows. I know in my area, still today, there are 100s that will stand and fight, but like you all have already said, the bleeding heart liberals out number the true red blooded americans. fortunately I have a son to carry my name, but he has been passified by his mother and step dad, that don't believe in gun roghts or gun ownership, that he will eventually fall into the libitarian groups, that will vote into office more politicians to continue to strip more of our rights away, till the constitution is no more than antique toilet paper scroll. there are red blooded americans out there, but its hard to draw them out bc they don't want to be singled out and stripped of their rights bc they "rocked boat". if an all out revolution started and continued into a years time frame, the "rich and powerfull" "the yuppies" will be straved out bc they don't know how to live off the land, dont know how to play hide and seek with the "bad guys". I do agree that their are not enough AT THIS TIME to sustain a fight with big brother and against our military, but I do not think that even the lowest ranking backwoods soldier will stay with his unit and fight against real americans, but yet defect across to American soil. again, I do not wish to ruffle feathers, but I think some people don't give credit, where credit is due. many lives will be lost many gallons of blood spilled, but hopefully the loss wont be for nothing in the end. How do I know? I deal with the public everyday. Unfortunately I deal with lots of self centered, my way or the highway, self entitled people. The type of people who will call 911 to have (and expect) an officer to come to their house to light their hot water heater, or bring them Jack in the Box because they are too lazy to walk down there and get their own. The type of people who call 911 because they have pulled into the intersection and stopped beyond the white line and the turn signal won't change. The type of people who will steal money from their elderly mother to by crack with. The type of people who get $2700 a month in government checks and live in HUD houses and have nothing in the house to eat, wear, sit on, eat on, wash with but they do have a 65" TV. I'm not in anyway talking about people who have grown up like you did. The truth is I grew up the same way. I was never hungry but I didn't eat fast food but maybe twice a year. We had a LARGE garden. We ate deer meat at every meal. I didn't have a ribeye until I was in the 9th grade. I've hunted and fished literally all my life. I know I am in the minority. Society has changed people. We don't have winners and loosers anymore. We all get a ribbon at the end of the race. Children are graduating HS without the ability to read and write complete sentences. How many of today's 25 year olds are still living in their parents home? Look around at your neighbor in WalMart. People have changed in the last 25 or 30 years. There are still a few "country boy can survive types" left but far more "Back Street Boy" types. Like I stated before. I hope we never have to take up arms as Americans to throw out our own government. If it does come to that I fervently pray that there are enough men and women willing to loose everything in order for our children to enjoy Freedom as the US Constitution defines it.
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