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Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 06:25 PM
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I went out to the ranch last weekend (Jacksboro) just to check on things since I couldn't play golf and my two tanks are as low as I have seen them even during the middle of the summer. I don't get it. I have pretty decent catch basins for both of them, they fill pretty quickly and I know we've had rain though I'm not sure how much. All I can guess it that much of what we see on the radar missed the area NW of Jacksboro. What are you guys seeing?
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: 7ARanch]
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04/24/13 06:26 PM
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I am seeing a very bad start to the summer.
To be determined
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 06:28 PM
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Same with me. Have had some rain but very spotty. A good shower will come across a pasture, run a little water in one tank and nothing in another tank a half mile away.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 06:51 PM
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I can actually get a hose to one of them from my well and we don;t get some rain pretty quickly I'm afraid I'm going to be filling it like a swimming pool...hmm my well pumps 600gal every 3 hrs, this is going to get ugly.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: 7ARanch]
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04/24/13 06:55 PM
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I can actually get a hose to one of them from my well and we don;t get some rain pretty quickly I'm afraid I'm going to be filling it like a swimming pool...hmm my well pumps 600gal every 3 hrs, this is going to get ugly. Better do something quick cause evaporation will use up that much water when gets hotter really soon.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 06:59 PM
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One of mine is dry, the other two are as low as they were at the end of the summer.
Hoping for spring / early summer rains to fill at least two of them.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 07:08 PM
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I have gotten very lucky, have received 6" so far this month. Grass is green as heck and close to a foot tall. All the ponds are full except 5, and they caught a lot of water. Got a dammed up creek and it's full as well..
But it's a small area out my way that got that much rain. Good Luck, hope you get some coming your way..
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 07:09 PM
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Mine have been dry for 3 years
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 08:18 PM
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My place is just South of Bowie. I still have about 3 ft of water but the fish are all dead.
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Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 10:09 PM
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I can actually get a hose to one of them from my well and we don;t get some rain pretty quickly I'm afraid I'm going to be filling it like a swimming pool...hmm my well pumps 600gal every 3 hrs, this is going to get ugly. Don't do that. You will WASTE a lot of water. You will lose X percentage to absorption into the ground plus, and this is the real culprit, a lot to evaporation. Depending on the surface area of your tank, you could be out 10s of thousands of gallons per year, most of that during warmer months. Back in 2008, the estimate for North Texas tanks was about 72" of loss per year. Say you have a medium-sized 70 foot diameter round tank. Assuming with slope is averages to being a 50 foot diameter. At 72" or 6 (not 5!) feet, that would give you a volume of 11781 cubic feet of evaporation over the year. Of course, most of that will be during the summer, right? In that volume, you are looking at 88801 gallons of loss over the year. You can reduce your surface area and reduce your evaporation loss consideration. If you are going to use a hose, buy a 50 or 100 gallon metal tank with a flow valve (like on toilets). You will limit your evaporation considerably by having much less surface area, but still have plenty of water on demand. We are watering about 40 head of cattle from one 50 gallon tank hooked to a water hose, plus whatever critters show up. So take this 50 gallon tank. It has about 5 square feet of surface area. Assuming 72" of loss, you are looking at 30 cubic feet of loss which translates to 224.4 gallons. You might even have less because none is getting absorbed in the ground. In other words, if you are resorting to using the hose, filling a stock tank is not efficient. You are likely better off supplementing with a small metal watering tank. Plus depending on your property and hose, you might be able to put the tank under a tree for shade, reduce evaporation and keep the water cooler for the cattle.
Last edited by Double Naught Spy; 04/24/13 10:41 PM.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 10:20 PM
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Great advice Double Naught. I agree with everything except umm...72" is 6 feet.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/24/13 10:28 PM
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Good grief! Yes it is. I will fix the calculations. I wrote the response over the course of an hour while doing daddy duties, LOL.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/25/13 01:25 AM
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Woodson area isn't looking good. Only 1 pond out of 8 might survive the next few months. Looks like we might be hauling water
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/25/13 01:39 AM
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Thankfully our land owner in the panhandle is installing more solar pumps on the wells that storms blew the tops off of the windmills as well as submersibles on the wells that have elec. near by. Having some more tanks dug too just in case it ever does start raining again. Last year we had little to no water on the place and the number of deer we didn't have was a direct result. All of the tanks and ponds here locally are completely full though.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/25/13 03:53 AM
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Mine both went dry summer on 2011. One was 100% full this time last year, the other never caught enough to make mud, they are about a mile apart. The one that was full last spring was down to about 2' until we got 4" 3 weeks ago when it caught about 2', so it has maybe 4' in it now. Full it is 12' deep. Some fish survived but it may very well go dry this summer if this summer repeats the last two. Sucks for certain. One blessing is these fronts are keeping evaporation down as are the cloudy mist days. Pastures are 2' high in grass and greener than since 2010.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: 7ARanch]
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04/25/13 05:46 AM
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lot of low tanks around here also
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/25/13 06:01 AM
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North of Bowie same thing. Lowest I have seen them this time of year ever. Two years ago we had a mud pit for our lake. Caught a 7 lb bass a couple weeks ago out of it. Had the mouth of a 13 lber! No idea how they can make it but they do. If we don't get a good rain soon this could be it... Luckily we have one tank on a well so dove will be good and deer hydrated.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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04/25/13 10:26 AM
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Another figure: One acre of water, one inch deep, is 27,000 gallons. At the price of electricity, how much can you afford to pump?
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Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/25/13 11:08 AM
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Friend of mine just west of Cranfills Gap cost him $400.00 a month in electricity to pump well water into his tank; Ouch!
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: Stub]
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04/25/13 12:00 PM
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So pumping water into a tiny 50 gallon tank would be nothing compared to that, even with the cost of buying the tank and flow valve setup.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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04/25/13 12:15 PM
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I think the real question to ask would be how valuable is your wildlife to you? The best place to store water with no evaporation is in the ground.
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Re: Tanks are LOW
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04/25/13 01:15 PM
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ponds are good in Fayette co... that last rain.. dumped like 5.3 inches out at our place!...
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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04/25/13 04:55 PM
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I can actually get a hose to one of them from my well and we don;t get some rain pretty quickly I'm afraid I'm going to be filling it like a swimming pool...hmm my well pumps 600gal every 3 hrs, this is going to get ugly. Don't do that. You will WASTE a lot of water. You will lose X percentage to absorption into the ground plus, and this is the real culprit, a lot to evaporation. Depending on the surface area of your tank, you could be out 10s of thousands of gallons per year, most of that during warmer months. Back in 2008, the estimate for North Texas tanks was about 72" of loss per year. Say you have a medium-sized 70 foot diameter round tank. Assuming with slope is averages to being a 50 foot diameter. At 72" or 6 (not 5!) feet, that would give you a volume of 11781 cubic feet of evaporation over the year. Of course, most of that will be during the summer, right? In that volume, you are looking at 88801 gallons of loss over the year. You can reduce your surface area and reduce your evaporation loss consideration. If you are going to use a hose, buy a 50 or 100 gallon metal tank with a flow valve (like on toilets). You will limit your evaporation considerably by having much less surface area, but still have plenty of water on demand. We are watering about 40 head of cattle from one 50 gallon tank hooked to a water hose, plus whatever critters show up. So take this 50 gallon tank. It has about 5 square feet of surface area. Assuming 72" of loss, you are looking at 30 cubic feet of loss which translates to 224.4 gallons. You might even have less because none is getting absorbed in the ground. In other words, if you are resorting to using the hose, filling a stock tank is not efficient. You are likely better off supplementing with a small metal watering tank. Plus depending on your property and hose, you might be able to put the tank under a tree for shade, reduce evaporation and keep the water cooler for the cattle. +1
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Re: Tanks are LOW
[Re: Minotphil]
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04/25/13 05:30 PM
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Problem is we haven't had a real good soak in quite a while. We need a tropical storm to park over tx for about 2 weeks and flood everything, over saturating the ground. Then if we get sporadic rain we will be fine.
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